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Davy J
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Initially Posted - 02/17/2012 : 06:00:22

Catalina 315 at the Miami Boat Show:

Davy J

2005 Gemini 105Mc
PO 1987 C25 #5509 SR/SK
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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 02/17/2012 : 07:01:33

It seems they still haven't "plugged the hole" in their lineup between 25 ft. and 30 ft.

On this 315, are the bulkheads and cubbie doors real hardwood, or woodgrain melamine?

Are the countertops composite (Corian-like), or melamine?

It seems like their other new models have been moving to cheaper interior materials.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/17/2012 : 07:36:55

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RhythmDoctor
 It seems they still haven't "plugged the hole" in their lineup between 25 ft. and 30 ft.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

25 footers are generally about the max for trailering while 30+ footers are the new entry level weekenders/coastal cruisers. Today, if I was going to spend big bucks for a brand new boat with ample accommodations for weekending, lounging at the dock, coastal cruising, etc., I wouldn't consider anything less than 30' and I'm sure that goes for today's market as well. Kind of like housing, where today's new entry level homes are mansions compared to the housing market 30 plus years ago.

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Sam001
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Response Posted - 02/17/2012 : 08:13:52

Yes, but it is hard to find a hand-laid, strong boat at an afordable price also.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/17/2012 : 09:10:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Sam001
 Yes, but it is hard to find a hand-laid, strong boat at an afordable price also.
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"Affordable" being the operative word. With my oldest now a senior in college (who just informed us she's going for her Master's degree

) and the other daughter entering college in the near future, I'm having a hard time finding bananas at an affordable price!

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/17/2012 : 18:21:55

I guess we were hardliners since we told our kids that the bachelor's was on us but graduate school was on their own work and credit worthiness. We helped some with a check now and then.

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TCurran
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Response Posted - 02/17/2012 : 19:07:46

Davy, only $906 a month, I want to see your a-frame that allows you to drop the mast and fit under your bridge...

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Response Posted - 02/18/2012 : 05:09:55

Davy, did you take the first pic to point out the 2 piece mast?

Paul

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TCurran
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Response Posted - 02/18/2012 : 05:47:48

Paul, I noticed the two-piece mast last year at the Miami show, we asked the Catalina folks about it. They claim it has to do with the way a new way to "galvanize" (not the correct term, but all my mind can think of this morning) the mast. The process only allows for a fixed length, which happens to be shorter than what they need for a mast, so hence the two piece mast. All of their bigger boats have this. The Catalina reps also said the mast would look new throughout the life of the boat and the joint is stronger then the other mast section. Sounded funny to me at the time, and since I'm not looking for a new bigger boat, I never researched it. I did notice another manufacturer, Hunter I think, at the recent St Pete show with a two piece mast.

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 02/18/2012 : 06:07:07

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Davy, did you take the first pic to point out the 2 piece mast?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
No, I was only capturing the Catalina logo on the spinnaker and didn't even notice the mast joint.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Davy, only $906 a month, I want to see your a-frame that allows you to drop the mast and fit under your bridge...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
No, but I did contemplate how I could fit a Gemini catamaran under it

. It's mast is only about 10' longer than a C25.

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 02/18/2012 : 06:09:53

anodized Al I would suspect. Interesting, I have never noticed two piece masts. Thanks for asking and sharing.

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TCurran
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Response Posted - 02/18/2012 : 07:01:55

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Ape-X
 anodized Al I would suspect. Interesting, I have never noticed two piece masts. Thanks for asking and sharing.
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Yup...that's the word my brain couldn't find earlier

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TCurran
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Response Posted - 02/22/2012 : 04:15:56

Was at the show on Monday, again I asked the Catalina folks about the two piece masts, this time the salesman said it is because of shipping. That was my original thought. Both made a point about how strong the joint is. Two years, two different answers???

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redeye
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Response Posted - 02/22/2012 : 05:52:29

<< Two years, two different answers??? >>

Two different salesmen

Me two on thanks for the pictures.. always funny to see them later as you notice different details.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 02/24/2012 : 06:12:18

Took a long hard look at the 315 and the 355, both really nice boats.
I particularly liked the hull structure and bonding concept.

If I won the lottery....

Paul

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 02/25/2012 : 06:13:49

A few years back at the Newport show I toured the Catalina 309 which is approx 32 ft LOA. My wife and I liked it (well actually fell in love with it), but the way I figured - if I had to finance it, plus a dozen or so improvements we needed, it would be well over $1200 a month (more like a rent!).

I truthfully did not notice whether it had a 1 piece or 2 piece mast.

My plan is to keep sailing Passage for a few more years then look for a 309 that's been well cared for with all the improvements at a price I can come up with.

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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 02/25/2012 : 06:45:36

I too have looked at the 310 and 309 and loved both of them. Looking at the various reviews they appear to be pretty good under sail as well. BUT if I were moving up I would still lean toward a later version of the C-30 as my friends who own them -- and can afford more -- don't want to because they love the 30's sailing performance so much. The other boat I would look long and hard at is the 320 which, again, gets universal "I love it" comments from their owners I meet along the way. I don't see buying new as I would hate to, every time out sailing, be calculating "how much has THIS trip cost me" . . . . at least more than I do now!

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 02/25/2012 : 07:43:38

Reminds me of the saying: "If you have to ask how much it costs, you can't aford it."
Or
The only difference between men and boys is the size and cost of their toys! LOL

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/25/2012 : 08:00:15

The 309 - 320 series seem like very similar boats marketed for different user profiles, and I fell in love with the 309 a few years ago. Winning a lottery would probably point me toward a C-30 Mk. III or 309, but a big lottery would mean a Pacific Seacraft 31.

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