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JimGo
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Response Posted - 03/01/2012 :  11:29:02  Show Profile
I think NJ law requires a boat license for any "motorized vessel" over 9.9 hp. If you don't have the license, and don't want to go through the course, you'll need to stay under 10 hp.

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islander
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Response Posted - 03/01/2012 :  11:41:49  Show Profile
nix that
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Marine Bureau FAQ's - Frequently Asked Questions



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Do I need a boat safety certificate?




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Yes, if you are operating a personal watercraft (Jet Ski, Wave Runner, etc.), or a power vessel on the waters of the State of New Jersey you are required to possess a New Jersey boat safety certificate.

Exemptions:
A boat safety certificate is not required for non-powered vessels.

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pfduffy
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Response Posted - 03/01/2012 :  12:16:37  Show Profile
Jim - I've already been through the course, paid my money and got my certificate. If you have not, get your certificate - NJ needs the money :-)

BTW...I forget the amounts, but the fines for not having your certificate are pretty high. Also, I've not seen a significant increase in the amount of knowledgeable boaters on the Barnegat Bay since this law went into effect fully.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/01/2012 :  12:17:15  Show Profile
Ditto what Joe Diver wrote. I'm on an inland lake and have the 9.8 hp Nissan (sams as Tohatsu) only because the 8 doesn't come in both XL shaft and electric start which the admiral required. I would have bought the 6 hp 25" shaft if it had been available then. That's a very recent offering, and in my book it is a near perfect motor for the C-25 on inland lakes without big water waves.
One really nice advantage to the 6 hp is weight. It's the largest single cylinder motor available now in the tohatsu/Nissan/Mercury lines and weighs around 59 lbs. vs 93 for the 8 and 9.8 hp motors.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/01/2012 :  20:52:39  Show Profile
I'll guarantee that my 9.9 Mercury doesn't weigh 93 lbs.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 03/01/2012 :  22:10:34  Show Profile
Don't know your motor's specs Dave, but the 9.8 Tohatsu with 25" shaft and electric start is 92.6#. The 20" manual start is 83.8#.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 03/01/2012 :  22:12:00  Show Profile
Being able to use my existing motor mount is a big plus $$$ wise. Once I get it in and installed I'll take some pics and vids, and post 'em up.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/02/2012 :  08:16:07  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Joe Diver</i>
<br />Don't know your motor's specs Dave, but the 9.8 Tohatsu with 25" shaft and electric start is 92.6#. The 20" manual start is 83.8#.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I think he means it's about 125... That's what Mercs were when I was in the market "a few" years back. Made my 108# Honda 8 a lightweight!

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 03/02/2012 :  08:34:47  Show Profile
Ahh....they're all the same now. Tohatsu makes Nissan and Mercury, from 2.5 up through 15 HP or so.

Tohatsu is the basic motor.

Nissan has different decals and a $50 price hike.

Mercury is painted black, different decals, and an integrated tiller/throttle/shifter. Up to $300 price hike.

Although, Mercury does not brand the 6HP SailPro....which is a shame, because I've always been a Merc man and would consider paying the premium to brand the motor as a Mercury. Strictly vanity on my part.

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CarbonSink62
Navigator

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Response Posted - 03/15/2012 :  08:27:18  Show Profile
Thanks for all the advice. I'm off to look at a 1998 Honda 8hp long shaft (BF8A) tonight.

Is there a site that has the specs for older outboards? The 2012 weighs 107lbs (gasp!) and puts out 6A for charging.

Ken

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/15/2012 :  09:15:04  Show Profile
I think you will find that most motors are heavier that specs.

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CarbonSink62
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Response Posted - 03/15/2012 :  10:07:29  Show Profile
I'm gonna need a bigger boat.

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 03/15/2012 :  11:59:00  Show Profile
http://marine.honda.com/Owners/Manuals/models/BF8

The 98 long shaft model weighs about 80 lbs.

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Sam001
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Response Posted - 03/15/2012 :  19:41:57  Show Profile
I got a nissan 9.8 extra long shaft and i can still pick it up
and i have not been to the gym....

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