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hewebb
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Initially Posted - 03/10/2012 :  06:08:17  Show Profile
I have been thinking about removing the rear stay turnbuckle and replacing it with a binder that works like a chain binder. I am thinking it would make it easier to adjust once for the proper tension then use to loosen the stay for lowering the mast when we are moving to different lakes. I have been looking for a SS binder for that purpose without success. I do not want to move or change the rear stay because it is a single cable that goes through the bimini. What do you guys think about that idea?
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Davy J
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Response Posted - 03/10/2012 :  07:00:53  Show Profile
I am not sure if this is what you're looking for, but this is what I use to quickly loosen the backstay:


http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display& product_ID=486& ParentCat=99

I tighten up the mainsheet to take a little tension off the backstay and flip the lever over, it makes quite a racket, but then to tighten up I put the tension back on the mainsheet and the close the lever.
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/10/2012 :  07:12:16  Show Profile
I lowered my mast by disconnecting the forestay and easing the mast down aft, so never needed to loosen or disconnect the backstay to lower the mast. I don't think a binder, as I visualize it, would be very functional as a backstay adjuster, because I don't think it would be variably adjustable. To be really useful, a backstay adjuster needs to be adjustable through a wide range of tensions, and not mostly all on or all off. You might visualize a different arrangement than I, but as I see it, I think the result would be unnecessary for lowering the mast, and disappointing as a backstay adjuster.

My boat had a backstay adjuster, but I didn't use it for more than 15 years, because I didn't know how to tune the rig for it, and fhe boat was nevertheless very race competitive. An adjuster is nice to have, but you really don't need it.
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hewebb
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Response Posted - 03/11/2012 :  05:07:51  Show Profile
I have a furler on the front stay so do not think I can put one on the front. I think that may work on the rear for what I need to do. I will call Catalina to ask them. I have to loosen the rear stay to unpin the forward to lower the mast. I may have to have that and a turnbuckle on the rear to accomplish what I have in mind. This idea may get in the bad idea pile.
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Davy J
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Response Posted - 03/11/2012 :  05:29:37  Show Profile
I have a CDI furler on the forestay as well. And I keep tension on the mast so there is a little mast bend. For me to unpin the the forestay I need to let the tension loose on the backstay. I use this device on the backstay.
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/11/2012 :  05:37:35  Show Profile
There should be enough range of adjustment in the backstay turnbuckle to enable you loosen it enough to enable you to disconnect the forestay pin. If there isn't enough range of adjustment, the turnbuckle might need to be completely removed, and then put back on, starting the screws in both ends of the turnbuckle at the same time. That will maximize the range of adjustment.

Davy Js device would also work, if you trailer often, but loosening a couple of lock nuts and backing off the turnbuckle barrel doesn't take much time for occasional purposes.
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