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bigelowp
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Initially Posted - 03/16/2012 :  18:15:15  Show Profile
In the April Sail Magazine they have a feature article on Catalina and Frank Butler that, once again, reminds everyone why we love our boats as much as all the various owners of Catalina's from the Sabot to the 40+ yachts do. God bless Frank Butler for his vision, execution, and determination all these years!
Peter Bigelow
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hewebb
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Response Posted - 03/17/2012 :  05:15:48  Show Profile
Good read. We have had nothing but great service from them.
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redviking
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Response Posted - 03/17/2012 :  09:52:46  Show Profile
I just wish Frank would go back to his roots and stop building Hunteresq boats that are not nearly as well constructed as his earlier models... Me no likey the new ones in the smaller sizes. That been said, on the bigger boats he has sought to make them blue water worthy.

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islander
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Response Posted - 03/17/2012 :  13:41:13  Show Profile
Love the article but I'm a little offended. Talks about building the Cat 22's then skips right to the 27's and 30's. No mention of the 25's. We must be the red headed step child.
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 03/17/2012 :  17:11:17  Show Profile
Maybe so, but what we may be lacking there we all make up in this fabulous forum!
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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 03/17/2012 :  18:52:24  Show Profile
Absolutely!!!!!!
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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 03/17/2012 :  19:55:23  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by islander</i>
<br />Love the article but I'm a little offended. Talks about building the Cat 22's then skips right to the 27's and 30's. No mention of the 25's. We must be the red headed step child.
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I assume your comment is tongue-in-cheek. If not, realize that any interview is heavily edited by the author, so they might have mentioned the 25 footers without them being included in the article.
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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 03/17/2012 :  21:12:42  Show Profile
I don't currently subscribe to Sail. I'm considering the digital edition. Does it have every article contained in the hardcopy version? Have any of you tested it on Android (looks like Flash Player for Android came out a week or so ago)?
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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 03/18/2012 :  21:06:38  Show Profile
I'm just an analog guy in a digital world who likes hard copy magazines so can't comment on digital, but typically all the articles are there as well as additiona --and obnoxiously placed ads.
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OJ
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Response Posted - 03/21/2012 :  10:03:05  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by redviking</i>
<br />. . . I just wish Frank would go back to his roots and stop building Hunteresq boats that are not nearly as well constructed as his earlier models . . . <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">This reminds me of a local C25 owner that toured the C250 at the Annapolis boat show a few years ago. Upon exiting the boat a guy asked him what he thought of the boat - to which he replied "I think it's a piece of crap!" Turned that "the guy" asking the question was (you guessed it) Frank Butler.

Selling a C250 to a C25 owner would be a hard sell. Selling to a newbie in the 25' world, not as hard I suppose.
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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 04/11/2012 :  20:22:49  Show Profile
The electronic version of the article is now available through their website as a free sample.
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pastmember
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Response Posted - 04/12/2012 :  09:38:42  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by islander</i>
<br />Love the article but I'm a little offended. Talks about building the Cat 22's then skips right to the 27's and 30's. No mention of the 25's. We must be the red headed step child.
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Catalina never mentions the Catalina 25 in articles. I suspect there is more to that than we know. I lot of designs were stolen in the early days of fiberglass.
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awetmore
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Response Posted - 04/12/2012 :  12:47:57  Show Profile
The article is here:
http://sailmagazine.com/profiles/frank-butler

The section where he mentions the 22, 27, and 30 is from talking about the early models (ending with the 30 coming out in 1975). Since the 25 came in 1977 I'm not surprised that it isn't mentioned in that grouping. He does talk about the Coronado 25.

It isn't an in-depth article, but it was a nice light read.
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PCP777
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Response Posted - 04/12/2012 :  14:39:37  Show Profile
I subscribe to sail, and this picture is bigger in hard copy, but it sure looks like some C-25's in the background...the two boats abeam of us.


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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 04/12/2012 :  14:43:43  Show Profile
I too have never understood the omission of the C25 from past articles about the history of Catalina. It's possible that it wasn't as commercially successful for the company as other lines. It cost a lot to build, but Frank couldn't price it accordingly. The tiny step up from a 25 to a 27 was always a huge step price-wise. In any event, the C25 was one of the best boat values in the industry during my lifetime.
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pastmember
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Response Posted - 04/12/2012 :  17:07:26  Show Profile
Aw come on Steve, I am trying to start a conspiracy theory. Surely you suspect skullduggery of some sort too.
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 04/12/2012 :  17:24:04  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by pastmember</i>
<br />Aw come on Steve, I am trying to start a conspiracy theory. Surely you suspect skullduggery of some sort too.
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I'm sure you're right! Something about the Da Vinci Code and a secret message hidden in the Resolute desk in the Oval Office.
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OJ
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Response Posted - 04/12/2012 :  18:00:41  Show Profile
I was disappointed the article was so short - there wasn't room to talk about each model. Compared to the number of C22s produced, the C25 pales in comparison.

We're all just biased!
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