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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/20/2012 : 08:54:27

I agree--when a tarp starts flapping in a strong breeze (which bungees let it do), the bungees can pop loose. I've seen it up-close.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/20/2012 : 10:22:19

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redeye
 Sorry to sound like a dud.. but anyhoo.. I've photographed several ruptured globes ( eyeballs ) from fishermen using bungee cords to secure tarps on the boats. They slip and pop you in the eye.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

That's why I ditched my sail ties made of shock cord. Getting a hard slap to the face with the toggle end ain't no fun!

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/20/2012 : 11:39:09

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redeye
 << they are tight when stretched >>

Sorry to sound like a dud.. but anyhoo.. I've photographed several ruptured globes ( eyeballs ) from fishermen using bungee cords to secure tarps on the boats. They slip and pop you in the eye.

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Eeeeew. That sounds gross. Now I have this visual of an eyeball hanging from the hook on a bungee, just kindof bouncing around. I can't unimagine this.

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Stu G
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Response Posted - 03/20/2012 : 14:08:14

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave5041
 I sometimes throw a cheap tarp over the boom and shockcord it to the station bases. Keeps the rain or sun out with plenty of ventilation for working below. A snap shackle takes care of the vang when I use the actual cover.
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Me too. An 8x10 tarp. But I tie the forward corners to the shrouds and I have an extendable aluminum painters pole stretched between the aft corners. The aft corners are bungied to the stern rail. Makes getting on and off the boat easier than attaching to the stanchions, which is how I did it to begin with.

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Drjohn71a
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Response Posted - 03/20/2012 : 14:39:57

Good point, Stu,

I was trying to imagine me attempting to roll aboard, under those lifelines!

So, the 11x11 foot boom tent sold by West Marine is prob too large for a C-25?

Edited by - Drjohn71a on 03/20/2012 14:41:39

Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/20/2012 : 18:56:04

We do the paintr's pole thing, but with a cheap boathook.

You can use larger tarps John, but it takes some creative tarping. If you use 2 boathooks, you can set up side flaps that hang down. Since at its widest point the C-25 has an 8' beam, anything over that is room for creativity. We like a 10' tarp for a boom tent, but we raise the boom up ridiculously high when we do it.

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Stu G
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Response Posted - 03/21/2012 : 11:37:42

Even with an 8' width we still have a bit of a side curtain effect forward. I don't attach my lines to the corner grommets, but to the next one in, since the shrouds are probably only 7 feet apart at that height.

I just checked out the boom tent and call me cheap but a $20 tarp sounds better than a $150 tent.

The one disadvantage to the tarp is that it is a little stiff which makes deploying and folding slightly challenging in the confined space of the cockpit. The boom tent may be of a suppler material.

Edited by - Stu G on 03/21/2012 11:46:59

Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/21/2012 : 12:16:53

Yup Stu, and we call the crinkle-crinkle sound as the wind blows through the tarp "extra ambiance." We ahve set up a full cockpit enclosure with the $20 tarps. Got a lot of comments - until the rain started, then everyone thought it was a great idea.

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JimGo
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Response Posted - 03/21/2012 : 12:57:40

Isn't a boom tent really just a piece of fabric (including a tarp) which drapes over the boom, and is somehow attached to the boat? If so, why not buy three yards of outdoor fabric from Joann's or eBay, cut it to the desired length, and, if you're ambitious, add a few grommets? Granted, that would cut down on the ambiance, but still...

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Stu G
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Response Posted - 03/21/2012 : 13:14:53

Pretty much. I thought about that and you'd need about 8 yards of fabric at $10 a yard or more and you still have to sew it and add the grommets. So you have at least $90 plus time, though it's probably going to be prettier and you can customize the shape.

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Stu G
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Response Posted - 03/21/2012 : 13:18:08

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Prospector
 Yup Stu, and we call the crinkle-crinkle sound as the wind blows through the tarp "extra ambiance." We ahve set up a full cockpit enclosure with the $20 tarps. Got a lot of comments - until the rain started, then everyone thought it was a great idea.
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We haven't gone as far as enclosing the cockpit but we have gotten comments on what a good idea it is. Of course we're in the "redneck marina", so anything goes.

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Drjohn71a
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Response Posted - 03/21/2012 : 13:39:53

Rain supposed to let up in Tulsa by Friday, so the pressure for a decision by this weekend is off. Seems to be a lot to consider on such a seemingly simple need - dryness. The marina does not fully open until April 1st, so that will give me closer shelter and a land head. It was pretty uncomfortable a few weeks ago when the only shelter was the cabin or a long uphill walk and drive away.

Part of the problem is that I was spoiled by my last boat, a power boat, which was under a huge covered slip with lots of surrounding deck space. I looked forward for inclement weather at times so I'd have a cool, dry place to work on it. Maybe if I ran a huge umbrella up the mast?

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islander
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Response Posted - 03/21/2012 : 16:19:14

How about a canvas tarp like this http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200330017_200330017

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Stu G
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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 : 05:50:45

This is basiclly the same as the one we use.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200384666_200384666

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JimGo
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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 : 06:15:57

Wow, I wish that 16x24 tarp was a few feet longer...

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 : 06:19:37

@JimGo... That's what she said.

We use whatever is on sale or on the shelf in the basement. we also have a lightweight ripstop nylon tarp from a camping store. The advantage of teh nylon tarps (apart from packability) is that many of them have a eye sewn onto a reinforcing patch in the middle of the tarp. That eye allows you to attach a halyard to the tarp and hoist it skyward. With the edges of the tarp attached to teh lifelines, it gives your boat a big-top look, but works really well.

Its not as expensive or high-tech as this, but similar in design: http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/Tents/LightShelters/PRD~5001-266/integral-designs-silshelter-tarp.jsp 9 times out of 10 though, we end up using a cheap blue plastic tarp.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 : 07:29:00

Using 60" wide fabric, I should think that 6 yds. of fabric cut into two 3 yd pieces and sewn together would make a suitable foundation for a boom tent. Personally, I have been using an 8x10 tarp with pvc poles at each end and clothes line cord from the pole ends to shroud turnbuckles and stern cleats. works for us.

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