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albert
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Initially Posted - 01/10/2003 : 18:13:04

Someone is selling a new 2002 9.9 20" shaft electric start Honda 4 Stroke for $1700.

Is this a fair price?

Do you have to remove the outboard for the oil change or can it be done while its on the boat. I was told to change the oil every 100 hours.

Would the 20" shaft be long enough for some rough weather?

Albert Iturrey
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<i>Abacus'</i>: http://www.comhertz.com/abacus

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Response Posted - 01/10/2003 : 18:35:45

Albert.....Like everything in life, the great finds, aint gonna work.
Great price, killer price. But.....20" just isn't even close to being adequate for a sail boat. Recommended is 25"-28" lengths. You probably could buy that motor and add an extension shaft ( if available) but that would raise the cost almost $500 to do that. is the extension available, is it worth the time and energy....I don't know

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 01/10/2003 : 19:11:15

A Honda long shaft is actually 22.2 inches according to their spec sheet. Honda gives a bit more, but they also do that on the X and it's 27.7 inches, so there is 5.5 inches difference.

The L has two versions, one of them high thrust and designed for sailboats.

The X's are all configured as high thrust and include a voltage regulator which is important if used for cruising.

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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Response Posted - 01/10/2003 : 19:12:19

I agree with Gary, 20" is a little short and for just a bit more(I think) you could have a new motor of the proper length.

Question, since I've never bought a motor out of the crate, what exactly do outboards cost these days?

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 01/10/2003 : 19:16:22

Don, I paid 2,250 for my 2001 Honda 8 xls electric start. The same motor with a 9.9 sticker and capable of 500 rpm more is another 3-4 boat units I think.

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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Response Posted - 01/10/2003 : 19:22:33

$2,250 sounds reasonable. Thanks.

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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Douglas
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Response Posted - 01/10/2003 : 19:22:39

That price is tooooo high. Prior to selling my C-25 I bought a one year old 8Hp long shaft for $1400. It had 25 hours on it.

Doug&Ruth
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 01/10/2003 : 22:04:23

What year was it Doug? I also own a '93 Honda 8 long shaft which I paid 1,500 for new. The older 8 of course was not offered in an xls or with starter. I would have been more than happy to stay with it if the shaft length could have been lengthened. Honda never offered an extension kit for it.

I stuck with it even though the length was marginal and posed a bit of a safety issue for the Great Lakes Cruising I do, waiting for the new 8 hp to be released in a xls config to find out that it wasn't an 8 after all but rather a bridled 9.9 and heavy.

The old 8 at 79 lbs was no problem for two people to easily transfer to the inflatable and would plane it with a 400 lbs load without problem. This was done very often while cruising, but no way would I attempt to hand the new 108 lb motor onto the inflatable... heck, it might flip over backwards <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>.

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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