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Sail track cleats-1982 C25,Std rig,f/k

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Mountaineer62
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Initially Posted - 06/11/2012 : 12:55:21

Am interested in adding a set of stbd and port cleats to the genoa track(s). Anyone have purchase experience? what dimensions are recommended, i.e., track width and thickness. Thanks for all input.
Bob

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 06/11/2012 : 13:15:06

Bob, it is what was a standard track simply called a 1" track. There are now other sizes so just make sure you get for a 1" track. look on ebay.

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keeldad
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Response Posted - 06/11/2012 : 13:42:09

I bought the plastic (delrin?)ones from CD this year to use for my spring lines. They fit well and seem to be well made. The price was reasonable too.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 06/11/2012 : 13:43:33

I have the ones from Catalina Direct. They work fine, but aren't my favorite design because the fixing bolt runs through the center of the cleat, making it so that you can't loop a mooring line through there.

The track mounted cleats can get in the way. The genoa sheets like to hook on them if they are placed near the middle of the boat, and then you need to send someone forward to unhook them. It is just as easy to tie spring lines to the shrouds, and then the genoa cleat isn't that useful.

I may remove mine and list them in the swap.

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islander
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Response Posted - 06/11/2012 : 14:32:32

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">It is just as easy to tie spring lines to the shrouds<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I wouldn't tie anything to the shrouds, especially a dock line. Your better off putting a loop over your winch for a spring line.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 06/11/2012 : 15:34:51

Why? The chainplates are about the sturdiest thing on the boat, right? I know that they are designed primarily for vertical loads, not horizontal ones, but they seem pretty beefy in both directions. The upper shroud chainplates seem much sturdier in all directions than the T-track is.

I was taught to do this in one of my classes when there isn't an appropriately positioned cleat. I'm open to learning otherwise though.

Am I the only person who has had the jib sheets get caught up on the track mounted cleats?

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dragonf1y
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Response Posted - 06/11/2012 : 16:18:54

I can't speak to using the shrouds, but I have the (overpriced) stainless steel cleat that CD sells. Pricing aside, it works very well and gets used every day as the cleats at our finger are oddly spaced. I don't like using the winch on the cockpit combing as it can create a tripping hazard especially for friends who aren't used to getting on and off a boat and our finger lays pretty low in the water. I don't have problems with the headsail sheets getting caught in it, but then again I have a 150% genoa so the blocks are right next to the cockpit and I have appropriately long sheets.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 06/12/2012 : 04:46:41

<< there isn't an appropriately positioned cleat >>

Pretty easy to add some cleats.. Not expensive with the black "plastic" ones with a low profile. Too far forward and they can get hung up in the sheets.

Near the stanchions and the stanchions keep your sheets from getting hung on the cleats.

When I'm out and expect to have to dock at unusual places I keep docking lines on the cleats and it makes it easy to jump off and have a line to the front and back of the boat. Hang my fenders on them as well as a spring line.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 06/12/2012 : 05:35:13

Due to the fact that my fixed dock is made of concrete and steel, for peace of mind I use two aft spring lines. The forward line goes to one of the bow cleats and the other to a midship track car that has a loop instead of a cleat. The spring line eye has a stainless steel carabiner on it that I simply clip to the loop on the track car. With the track car loop, there is no chance of it snagging a sheet as could happen with a cleat. I used a rather robust car, not the stamped steel welded kind.

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sue
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Response Posted - 06/12/2012 : 05:48:01

We got 2 of these last year

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10391|292249|312057& id=92875

Similar to the one's on CD but much less expensive.

After bumping the dock on our first cruise, we started using the Nauti Duck Dock-A-Matic line method described in this post http://catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15645

Since we don't have a cabin top winch, we went with these cleats and they work very well for a midship spring line like the Dock-O-Matic.

The only challenge we have found is the initial positioning of the cleat. It took a few adjustments to get the positioning right.

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SJ
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Response Posted - 06/12/2012 : 10:31:57

I just ordered a set of spring loaded cleets that drop down when not in use and pop-up when i need them at the dock. I've never been able to make sure the sheets do not get trapped by a cleet when located midship, and with both jib and spin sheets run it can get dicey when one catches and well you know the rest of the story.....I will hopefully take some photos once I get them installed

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islander
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Response Posted - 06/12/2012 : 12:56:30

Don, I have the same set up. I use a pole slider on the track and a stainless clip. the clip and springline are left cleated at the dock and is the first thing attached when docking., Then the fore and aft dock lines that are left cleated at the dock also.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I just ordered a set of spring loaded cleets that drop down when not in use and pop-up when i need them at the dock.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I was thinking of those also but I wasn't sure if water doesn't go down and through them. That would make a heck of a leak. Maybe someone else knows if they are water proof.

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SJ
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Response Posted - 06/14/2012 : 11:43:37

They actually come with a drain built in to them. 1/4" poly tobing right down to the bilge....

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