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Deborah
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Initially Posted - 07/08/2012 :  09:36:19  Show Profile
anybody have a 9.9 25 inch shaft for sale ?

1985 Catalina 25 Fin Keel #5160
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Spring Grove, IL

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 07/08/2012 :  11:30:56  Show Profile
I don't, but have you checked out Craigslist and Ebay? Also, if you are considering new, see onlineoutboards.com. They give a discount if you buy from them through the C25/250 Association. Also, check out their 6 hp Sail Pro. good motor and not much lighter than the 9.9.


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pfduffy
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Response Posted - 07/08/2012 :  12:07:03  Show Profile
I found it difficult to find a decent used extra long shaft motor earlier this spring when I was looking for a motor. Ultimately bought a new Tohatsu 9.8 from Onlineoutboards.com - I am very happy with it.

http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohatsu-9-8-hp-MFS9-8A3EFUL.html

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 07/08/2012 :  20:19:45  Show Profile
Apparently rarities! A guy drove from D.C. to SW Ohio and home over a weekend to get to get my old one the week I listed it.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 07/09/2012 :  07:58:02  Show Profile
small outboards hold their value very well, are much sought after, and go fast. I put my little Yammy 5HP on CL when I bought my SailPro and it was sold in a day or so.

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CarbonSink62
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Response Posted - 07/09/2012 :  11:52:43  Show Profile
I'm also looking to repower and can't find much for used motors in my area (north of Boston). If I can't find one soon, I'll have to buy new as well. The Westerlies will be here soon!

Min specs: 9.9hp; 4stroke; 25" shaft; 4 blade lo-pitch prop; 12VDC output;

Extra points awarded for electric start or remote controls.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 07/09/2012 :  18:49:44  Show Profile
$2200 - $3200, pick your poison. All the big brands are good motors, so features, ergonomics and price are the decision makers. I wanted the Mercury Bigfoot, but didn't like the price and was ready to pull the trigger on a Tohatsu. My wife drove my choice by saying: "As long as these motors seem to last, you should just get what you want." Wise words! A 10 - 20 year functional life makes that $1000 a lot less significant. I used our discounted Online Outboards Tohatsu price to bargain and got $5-600 off list for the Bigfoot. We tend to be much more tolerant of minor issues if we like the overall package.

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CarbonSink62
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Response Posted - 07/10/2012 :  09:31:18  Show Profile
I like the Mercs and would be happy to have an American name (even if the motor was actually made 'elsewhere') but I don't see a 10hp with a 25" shaft in their line-up.

Do they have one?

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piseas
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Response Posted - 07/10/2012 :  10:16:15  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by pfduffy</i>
<br /> Ultimately bought a new Tohatsu 9.8 from Onlineoutboards.com - I am very happy with it.

http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohatsu-9-8-hp-MFS9-8A3EFUL.html

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Deborah, If you [url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/membership_registration.htm"]JOIN[/url], $22, as a paid member you get a discount from www.onlineoutboards.com, which will more than pay for your membership.
Steve A

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Deborah
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Response Posted - 07/10/2012 :  12:09:30  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Deborah</i>
<br />anybody have a 9.9 25 inch shaft for sale ?
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Thanks everyone for your input. Still looking.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 07/10/2012 :  13:38:16  Show Profile
I think it is going to be hard for people to make offers to you without knowing where you live. They aren't that easy to ship.

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CarbonSink62
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Response Posted - 07/11/2012 :  07:12:23  Show Profile
BTW - onlineoutboards quoted my a $75 discount for my C25 Assoc membership.

That put the MFS9.8A3EFUL at $2,111 (was 2,186).

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CarbonSink62
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 :  07:58:42  Show Profile
I found a used 8hp Merc long shaft on CL that was for sale close to me; it lasted 2 days. (sigh)

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 :  10:25:05  Show Profile
That's just a tiny amount more than I paid for mine 4 years ago.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 :  15:49:30  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by CarbonSink62</i>
<br />I like the Mercs and would be happy to have an American name (even if the motor was actually made 'elsewhere') but I don't see a 10hp with a 25" shaft in their line-up.

Do they have one?
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Mercury has two 9.9hp outboards with 25" shafts, the Prokicker and the Bigfoot.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 :  16:06:05  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Joe Diver</i>
<br />small outboards hold their value very well, are much sought after, and go fast. I put my little Yammy 5HP on CL when I bought my SailPro and it was sold in a day or so.
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I had a very similar experience when I sold the 8hp Johnson Saildrive that came with our boat. I put it on CL for twice what I'd originally thought was a fair asking price and had people coming out of the woodwork after it. The first guy to contact me was all but desperate to get it, didn't have the cash to pay for it right away, but offered to put a non-refundable deposit down on it. He sent me the deposit via Paypal, and showed up the following weekend with the cash in hand for it. It was a good little engine, but two stroke. I was tired of the smell and noise and wanted a four stroke and the extra horsepower, so I was glad to sell it to a fellow sailor. That helped defray about 2/5 of the purchase price of our Tohatsu.

Not quite the same experience when I sold my 2-stroke dink engine a while back. It took a couple of weeks, and I ended up selling it to a guy who drove down from Canada for it. He was already making a trip down to Cabela's (about a 4.5 hour drive for him), so detouring out here didn't add significantly to his trip. I think he haggled me down $25 from my asking price, but seemed very happy to have it.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 :  18:47:51  Show Profile
Racers like the 2 strokes because, for the horsepower, they are lighter.

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CarbonSink62
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Response Posted - 07/13/2012 :  08:00:35  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dlucier</i>
Mercury has two 9.9hp outboards with 25" shafts, the Prokicker and the Bigfoot. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Thanks! I didn't see those. The pro-kicker also has a lower gear ratio (2.42:1 vs. 2.08:1) so it should be even better for driving a C25.

Do I care about the 'power tilt'?

Ken

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 07/13/2012 :  08:20:06  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by CarbonSink62</i>
<br />Do I care about the 'power tilt'?

Ken
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Only you can answer that....

All the options add weight....making the motor more and more unmanageable for one person, weighing down the stern, and requiring a beefy mount to be installed.

But...if you want to spend the money....having a big, 9.9, powerful motor, with power tilt, electric start, remote controls....all the bells and whistles....pretty sweet power system ya know....

My slip neighbor has an O'Day 25 with a sweet Honda 9.9 (I think) with power tilt and electric start....when I'm in the back, manually tilting my SailPro, manipulating the throttle, pulling the starter cord, managing the choke....he sits in his cockpit, pushes a button, motor tilts down....pushes a button, motor starts up.....pretty sweet setup! BUT....it's big and heavy. He needs a small crane at the dock to remove/install that motor. He's also got a super beefy motor mount system. It makes the O'Day sit a bit lower at the stern....and he's got $3500 or so wrapped up in it.....

I have $1500 in mine and can move it around by myself,

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 07/13/2012 :  09:00:07  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
If it were me, I wouldn't worry about the power tilt. Even a "big" 9.8/9 outboard is still pretty small and easily tilted. I've got an iffy lower back these days, and I don't even think about it when I need to raise or lower my Tohatsu. Same thing with extending it on the mount, which I find harder to do than tilting it. If you get a Tohatsu, I'd install Frank Farmer's bungee tilt mod so the tilt catch actuator is preloaded. When you reach down to tilt the engine, you don't have to fuss with pulling up on the actuator to engage the lock, the bungee does it for you. This makes it really easy to tilt the engine up and doesn't get in the way when you want to tilt it back down. Very slick.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 07/13/2012 :  11:12:14  Show Profile
The Bigfoot has 2.42 gearing and a 10" prop. Great low speed thrust from a package designed for displacement hulls. Twist the throttle/shift to unlock the tilt, and it tilts pretty easily. All of the motors have good points, but the electric start Merc Bigfoot was perfect for me.

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CarbonSink62
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Response Posted - 07/13/2012 :  11:49:12  Show Profile
I see, the 'power tilt' is just to tilt it out of the water; I was thinking 'trim'.

I certainly don't see the need on a 100# motor, but if I have to get power tilt to get the 25" shaft I would.

If I buy new (which seems more likely with every unsuccessful trip to Craig's List) it seems it will be the Tohatsu 9.8 XL.

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