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AkaBud
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Initially Posted - 08/05/2012 :  14:26:08  Show Profile
Greeting from a newby. I recently purchased a Catalina 25.
I plan to run most lines back to the cockpit and I think I have most of it figured out.
But I'm not clear on the reefing lines. Normally you hook the reef cringle to a hook on the boom so the luff holds the boom up like it does when not reefed.
When you run a line back to pull the luff down you can't hook to boom. So do you just let forward end of the boom float? Held up with a stop in the mast slot?
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Response Posted - 08/05/2012 :  15:18:00  Show Profile
Hooks are for people who can safely get to the mast when reefing. Most of us old farts singlehand and need to reef without leaving the cockpit or reef at the dock. Only a fool believes he will always be able to reef at the dock. I use two line reefing because it makes for better sail shape when reefed, I believe sail shape when reefed is even more important than when not reefed. Reefing involves a mast gate for slug control, or a "jackline" on the first few slugs. I always immobilized my goosnecks so they are not an issue whether reefed or not.
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Davy J
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Response Posted - 08/05/2012 :  16:34:23  Show Profile
Welcome to the C25 family. Use the search function, and type in reef or reefing, and I'm sure you'll find more posts than you care to read. It seems we have a few options for reefing; single line led back to cockpit, double line line led back to cockpit, varations of the two, hooks, and plain old tying off the sail. If you want to lead the lines back to the cockpit, it seems there are only two options. Single line, or double line. Double line seems to have the upper hand. I cannot use single or double lines back to the cockpit because of my rigging situation. I use a tack hook and a variation of the two line reefing system. Of course, I'm a 48 YO deck monkey that just jumps around on the deck.........
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redviking
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Response Posted - 08/05/2012 :  22:44:23  Show Profile
Lazy jacks and a two line system works best IMHO...

Welcome - and uh, your prudence has been established already by this thread. Run em back, run em back!

sten
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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 08/06/2012 :  08:07:54  Show Profile
When you "reef at the dock".....do you hoist the main up to the reef points, tie it in, then drop the main again and secure it?
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AkaBud
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Response Posted - 08/06/2012 :  18:19:35  Show Profile
I'm going to use two line reefing. I already have a mast gate and a jackline on the new main.
So how do you immobilized my goosneck?
Lazy jacks are probably in the future to.
Also have a new genoa and the furler is on the way.
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awetmore
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Response Posted - 08/06/2012 :  19:35:34  Show Profile
You don't need to immobilize the gooseneck, but it isn't hard to do if you do want to. You can either get the fixed gooseneck that Catalina Direct sells (the expensive approach), or get two normal mast slot stops (<$5 each) and place one below the gooseneck and the other above it.

I personally don't bother immobilizing it at all. I leave my downhaul tight and in place and use the halyard to adjust luff tension.
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 08/07/2012 :  06:18:18  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by awetmore</i>
<br />You don't need to immobilize the gooseneck, but it isn't hard to do if you do want to. You can either get the fixed gooseneck that Catalina Direct sells (the expensive approach), or get two normal mast slot stops (&lt;$5 each) and place one below the gooseneck and the other above it.

I personally don't bother immobilizing it at all. I leave my downhaul tight and in place and use the halyard to adjust luff tension.
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If you leave your boom downhaul tight, aren't you effectively immobilizing the gooseneck?
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awetmore
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Response Posted - 08/07/2012 :  06:43:17  Show Profile
Effectively I am. It can move about half an inch.

The cleat that the downhaul line wraps around is both stuck in place and placed a bit too high on my mast, so the downhaul isn't very useful on my boat. I've tried to move it many times, but the bolts won't budge. As a result I just leave the downhaul about as tight as I can get it.
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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 08/07/2012 :  10:44:00  Show Profile
For the tack, whether single or double line (double much preferred - why? Because that was the original design, right? The tack horn was #1 and the clew line was #2!!!) run the line from a cleat on the mast through the tack reef cringle and then down and aft, simple. There is rarely much force on the tack line.
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