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Dinger
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Initially Posted - 08/21/2012 :  13:16:13  Show Profile
I have a 1981 Catalina 25 swing keel and am wanting to put roller furling on the gib. My question is can i use the existing gib on the new furling system or will I have to purchase a new sail as well.
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 08/21/2012 :  16:22:21  Show Profile
A jib/genoa can be recut and have foil tape added to make it work on a furler. The condition of the sail dictates whether to follow that course or buy new. Rollers can often be found in a package with a new sail with a discounted package price.
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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 08/22/2012 :  04:10:42  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
Agree with other posting.

If your jib is the original, I would invest in a new furling Genoa. A Genoa will be an improvement over the jib giving you addl options depending on wind conditions and it being new (not stretched) will enable you to tack closer to the wind. Even if not racing, many will not be happy if they cannot sail close to the wind due to an old sail being too stretched/blown out. An old dacron sail will not necessarily show significant wear at it's seams indicating a replacement is necessary but over the years, if you cannot maintain a close tack without it flapping somewhat, it is a sign of it being significantly stretched and if that bothers you, then a new sail is the way to go. If considering a new sail, you have various options from off the shelf to custom made. Also, not all dacron sail matl is the same. There are different grades of dacron with the more expensive weaves less prone to stretching. Past postings on this subject cover this in more detail. If you search on Mack Sails - That website has a lot of info regarding Dacron sail matl/quality...otherwise just go by what dacron sails/sailmakers others recommend.
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 08/22/2012 :  11:59:45  Show Profile
Do you know the vintage of your jib? Its size (%)? Do you have a sailmaker nearby? How's the condition? Do you race (seriously)?

Your current sail would probably be cut so the clew is somewhat higher, making the sail slightly smaller. Then the luff-tape (with a cable in it to fit into the furler track) would be added. Optional, but recommended, would be some sort of sun shield strips--treated white Dacron or colored Sunbrella--to protect the sail when rolled up. Doing all of that to a sail over about 5 years old would seem to me to be a shaky investment--I'm guessing US$700-1000. Then again, that could be reduced by omitting the sun strips (and letting the old sail age in the sun), which might cut the price by something like $500.

Another consideration if you go new is size... Many (not all) here find a 130-135% genoa to be an excellent compromise for the C-25. It's easier to handle than the 155% racers commonly choose, gives nice performance in winds up to 12 knots or so, reefs down to a 100-110% sail in stronger winds without seriously affecting shape, and drives the boat nicely in stronger winds with the main doused. If you expect to reef the genoa, talk to the sailmaker about using a foam-filled luff tape to help keep the sail flat when partially rolled--it's not necessary, but many people seem to like it.
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 08/22/2012 :  12:13:06  Show Profile
I second the 130-135. I have a 150 but will go with a 135 when I replace it.
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Dinger
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Response Posted - 08/22/2012 :  12:42:33  Show Profile
Thanks everyone. Great info. Am already talking to a sail maker.
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Stinkpotter
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 08/22/2012 :  14:32:08  Show Profile
I just noticed that Catalina Direct offers some "conversion" services ranging from US$130-$149, and installation of UV strips. They also offer Ullman sails, which have an excellent reputation here. Shipping/customs from and/or to Canada would of course add to this.
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