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dave andersen
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Initially Posted - 09/08/2012 : 22:31:01

We have a bid of 1900.00 to completely rerig all the standing rigging on our 1986 C-25. Includes stepping and restepping the mast.

Does this sound reasonable? Up in Puget Sound.

Thanks for your help.

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rrick
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Response Posted - 09/08/2012 : 23:40:50

My rigger checked with Catalina Direct and found there is no wholesale pricing and to come back with the parts if I still needed help. I didn't, but did spend about 20 hours emptying the mast going overboard with fresh parts:
<ul><li>new wiring</li><li>running rigging </li><li> masthead sheaves </li><li>SS spreader brackets</li><li>leather spreader boots </li></ul>.

Had the original rigger not offered to save me the money, I'd have a $1900 bill and be done without headache. But since they were so cool, I still had a $1900 bill (spent in parts) and perhaps, no future headache.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 09/09/2012 : 06:21:34

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dave andersen
 We have a bid of 1900.00 to completely rerig all the standing rigging on our 1986 C-25. Includes stepping and restepping the mast.

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Does that include the new hardware, or is that only the cost of the labor?

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dave andersen
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Response Posted - 09/09/2012 : 07:17:37

That's complete with all new hardware and labor.

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Lee Panza
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Response Posted - 09/09/2012 : 07:45:33

Just a quickie, 'cause I'm going back out this AM, but I'd like to suggest you consider changing to swageless fittings when you replace the standing rigging. I recently did, and I ran a cost projection beforehand and found that I would save money by the second time I replace the standing rigging (conventional 'wisdom' says that standing rigging that lives in a salt water environment should be replaced every ten years or so; I've already experienced failures on other boats, so I consider this to be as important as changing my keel-lifting cable every other year or so). If you expect to be enjoying the boat for another ten years, and you don't want to worry about this when you're another ten years more senior (a significant motivation for me), you can save money (not even considering cost escalations) by going with swageless fitting this time 'round.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 09/09/2012 : 10:52:35

The complete shroud/stay kit from CD (retail) is apparently under $600 including shipping. That suggests you're being quoted at least $1300 for labor... When my mast was unstepped, stored for the winter, and restepped, the total cost was about $400. I can't find the paperwork from when a rigger replaced standing rigging I purchased from CD, but I can't imagine it was as much as $900 for labor. (It was, however, about 10 years ago.) At the time, he told me CD's kit was less expensive than what he would have to charge to make the whole set. The one complication for him was installing the forestay inside the furler foil, which he did by using the old stay as a "messenger" to pull the new one through. I recall he said the whole kit "fit like a glove."

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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 09/12/2012 : 19:10:20

Four years ago I paid $900.00@ for all new standing rigging including unstepping the mast for the winter and installing a new masthead I purchased (paid for) from CD. As I live in about the most expensive place in the country I would suggest you get a second quote. You may find that buying the materials from CD and then supplying to the rigger will save money.

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 09/14/2012 : 11:28:51

It is completely plug and play, there is no reason to have it done rather than doing it one's self. As we have been through hundreds of times it is trivial to drop the mast and raise the mast, the issue is whether or not you are in a place where they allow you to do your own work. My CD kit forestay was short so I needed to use a toggle, I recommend having a couple on hand.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 09/14/2012 : 15:16:23

I'm with Frank. Drop the mast, get the yard to do if needed, and work on it on sawhorses. Now you'll be able to go over everything, install new lights, foam inside the mast, new sheaves, new VHF antenna, steaming/deck light combo, tri color/anchor light combo, and learn while doing for way less than a rigger. I like sta-lock fittings and I'd skip the barrel type dohickey's and go with open ones that can be lubricated - damn IPA's make the brain fuzzy...

sten

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 09/14/2012 : 18:02:43

The price Stinkpotter quoted does not include the backstay. The $900 Bigelowe suggested does.

I had a local rigger build me new standing rigging this summer based on Catalina's original spec. Including install it was going to be around $900 for everything except the backstay.

I am doing the backstay next summer. In my opinion you were quoted a price that is far too high. My package included all swages, turnbuckles, T-bolts, etc.

I ended up re-rigging on my own. It is not difficult to do, and saved me about $200.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 09/14/2012 : 18:38:10

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Prospector
 The price Stinkpotter quoted does not include the backstay...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">You're right. The forestay and six shrouds are $539, and the backstay (un-split) is $112. Add shipping. I think that's about what I paid back around Y2K.

As a new owner back then, I chose to let a rigger do the work in order to deal with the puzzle of getting the forestay into the mysterious, segmented furler foil, and to insure everything else was satisfactory. (The mast was already down.) I, too, maybe could have saved a couple of C-notes, and possibly spent a few days cursing and fuming before finally going for help.

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