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JeanAndre
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Initially Posted - 09/12/2012 :  14:05:49  Show Profile  Visit JeanAndre's Homepage
Hello all,
this very neglected hull of a C25, fin keel, dinette interior landed on my lap.
Here is a picture of the tag, any idea on what year could it be?



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I am Captain ! !
Yelled I to my wife and daughter...


Jean André - St. Louis - MO
1981 C25 SR/SK - OH LALA #2591
1977 C25 TR/FK - CLARICE M. #0042
2011 9.8 Nissan XL shaft
USCG Master, sail and tow endorsements
ASA instructor
Aspiring boat designer (Westlawn)

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 09/12/2012 :  14:34:39  Show Profile
If it is hull #42 of a C-25 then it is probably from 1977.

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tomh
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Response Posted - 09/12/2012 :  17:45:53  Show Profile
My hull is 790 and it's a '78

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Sam001
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Response Posted - 09/12/2012 :  17:52:58  Show Profile
yep early 70's

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JKBIXBY
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Response Posted - 09/12/2012 :  19:06:31  Show Profile
I have hull nr 77 and mine was built in
1977, I think October.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 09/12/2012 :  19:37:52  Show Profile
Dumb question but isn't there a Hull ID number (HIN) on the stern? It's usually scratched in on the starboard side and it tells you the make, model, year and month of manufacture. I have a 16 ft daysailor from '78 and the HIN is correct.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 09/12/2012 :  20:52:38  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Voyager</i>
<br />Dumb question but isn't there a Hull ID number (HIN) on the stern? It's usually scratched in on the starboard side...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Yup--in the gelcoat just below the rub-rail (CTYx####x###). If you can find it, give it to us and we'll tell you everything there is to know about the boat. You'll need it to register and insure the boat.

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JKBIXBY
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Response Posted - 09/13/2012 :  17:23:50  Show Profile
My 77 doesn't have the CTY on the starboard. I think a few may have gotton out of the factory
in the early days without the numbers etched in the hull like mine. I called catalina and they
took the hull nr and found the info and had the CTY that was left off my boat. But mine is registered
with the hull nr 77 only. I traced the titles back to the original PO and the boat was always
registered with the nr 77 and no other numbers. Your boat could be like mine and have no number on the
starboard. Call Catalina and they will look it up and send you all the info.

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JKBIXBY
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Response Posted - 09/13/2012 :  17:26:31  Show Profile
PS. I haven't had any problem registering the boat or insuring it
with only the hull number. Even Boat US and a local company here in
OK insured it with out any question regarding the factory stamped number.

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JeanAndre
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Response Posted - 09/14/2012 :  12:16:52  Show Profile  Visit JeanAndre's Homepage
Thank you all for the replies. I went again to the boat this morning and retrieved the HIN: CTY K0042 M77F.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 09/14/2012 :  15:00:55  Show Profile
CTY = Catalina Yachts
K = C-25
0042 = hull #42
M = the following 3 characters are the Manufacture date
77 = 1977
F = January (A = August. Don't ask me...)

John: Did you look on the outside of the transom, starboard side, just below the rub-rail, for something that looks like it was scratched in by hand with a hot nail? (...because it probably was.) I'm dubious that Catalina forgot to put it there--it's required by law.

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JeanAndre
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Response Posted - 09/14/2012 :  16:17:16  Show Profile  Visit JeanAndre's Homepage
Hi Dave,
Should I have 0042 as sail number, or can I just stick 42 there?
Thanks!

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 09/14/2012 :  17:51:25  Show Profile
IMHO, <b>42</b> looks like a size... <b>0042</b> looks like a hull/sail number--and given the 6000+ C-25s, a very low one at that! (If I had Confetti, her sail would read <b>0001</b>. (Maybe it does. )

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JeanAndre
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Response Posted - 09/14/2012 :  19:20:38  Show Profile  Visit JeanAndre's Homepage
I Agree that 0042 looks a lot better then 42. I was just wondering if there was any protocol to be followed...

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TCurran
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Response Posted - 09/15/2012 :  04:09:49  Show Profile
As someone who has watched Chuck pass me on the race course quite regularly, Confetti has a big "1" on his sail, no zeros.

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JKBIXBY
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Response Posted - 09/15/2012 :  16:10:39  Show Profile
Dave
I looked when I bought the boat and again this year when I replaced the rubrail. No sign of the marking. Also the PO had it registered
as hin 77, nothing else.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 09/15/2012 :  17:41:28  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by JKBIXBY</i>
<br />Dave
I looked when I bought the boat and again this year when I replaced the rubrail. No sign of the marking. Also the PO had it registered
as hin 77, nothing else.
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I heard about this ona C22 forum I used to belong to.

There should be a secondary place IN the hull that the HIN is marked. Usually it's hidden under a settee or some other hidden place on the boat. It's a way for law enforcement to determine the hull number and who it's registered too if the bad guys pry off or grind off the exterior HIN #.

Catalina could probably tell you where to look.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 09/16/2012 :  06:22:40  Show Profile
My boat is also registered to the state without the full HIN. I actually wrote down the full HIN and brought it with me when we registered the boat, but since the previous owner only used the serial number that is how they registered it for me too.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 09/16/2012 :  06:35:44  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Our HIN is carved into into the hull as described above, it is also on a bonded label on the inside of the Stbd Cabin seat, of course, that will differ on a C25

Paul

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