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Voyager
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Initially Posted - 09/22/2012 : 12:47:35

I'm checking the calendar and tide charts for my annual Odyssey from the floating docks down in Milford Harbor to my winter haul out yard upriver. While tidal for 15 miles from Long Island Sound, the Housatonic isn't very deep in spots along the way. Add to that, the current can be pretty fierce at times (creating eddies and boils) so it's best to time your trip to go with the flow on a rising tide.
My floating dock is scheduled to be removed on Nov 1, but the tides tell me the best date is Saturday, Nov 3.
My marina has offered to make arrangements for me on their permanent slips for a few days.
On Saturday the 3rd, the current will run upstream all morning til high tide at 2pm, and sunset is around 5:30, so I should have enough time to start clearing her out before dark.
Last year, following out freak October blizzard, there were several warm weekend days that would have been perfect for sailing. It's really too bad the season has to end so quickly.
But as they say in Chicago, there's always next year!
For those in the great frozen north, what are your haul out plans?

Bruce Ross
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Port Captain � Milford, CT

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Response Posted - 09/22/2012 : 13:48:59

About a month from now I'll get the pump-out boat to do its thing, empty the water tank, run some antifreeze through all of the plumbing, fill and stabilize the gas tank, and leave her at the marina where she'll be lifted out and stored. My only timing constraint is to get her past the drawbridge in town before they close it for maintenance on about 11/2. A named storm could move the schedule up.

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Response Posted - 09/22/2012 : 18:48:48

Last year I pushed it to Halloween and ended hauling out in a very cold Nor'Easter. Took me a week to warm up!! It was pointless, really, to wait that long because I realized that most of my sailing time was weekday evenings after work - it gets dark so early in October that evening sails are cold and short.

This year I've planned the haul out with some friends at the local ramp for the Thanks Giving long weekend (Oct 7 in Canada).

The season is short in Nova Scotia (mid May to mid Oct) but the constant breeze and endless coves/ islands make every sail an adventure.

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Response Posted - 09/22/2012 : 19:14:21

Bruce - Up here on the lake is always iffy. They claim they will maintain the current level (427 above sealevel) until Oct 15th, after that it is a matter of luck. I have access to a deep ramp in Brookfield until Nov. but that is dependent on the level of course. I got a late start so i will push this year for sure. I've been managing to get out every weekend and hope to take a few half days in Sept. & Oct. I don't have to deal with tides, just the Power Co.

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Response Posted - 09/22/2012 : 21:17:07

Brian
I'd love to see your boat sometime soon and you and JoAnne are welcome to drive down to Milford for a sail. I'll be around on Columbus Day weekend so let me know if you'd like to get together for a sail and refreshments.

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Response Posted - 09/23/2012 : 04:04:19

We have vacation this week. We have called the hauler and have a date of Oct 6. That gives me time to get here settled in my yard before its really cold. Thens its on to fall/winter activities, dirt biking, bicycling, and ATVing

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Response Posted - 09/23/2012 : 16:36:33

Todd
I'm guessing weather in your area between now and Canadian Thanksgiving can be warmish (15C) or downright chilly and wet.
In Connecticut we USUALLY have a series of high pressure and cold fronts with about 3-4 days between fronts. We're usually in the low to mid 20s C. I'm hoping our pleasant weather continues for six more weeks, or at least three. Water temps are still around 21C. Keeps the nights from getting down into single digits.

That said, I've taken my boat upriver in Nov with threatening snow, pea-soup fog and pouring down chilly rain. So long as it's not "the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" scenario I'm fine. If I can squeak out a few more nice days, I'm all for it.
Eh you do what you've gotta do.

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BCG-Woodbury
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Response Posted - 09/23/2012 : 16:54:12

Hey Bruce - Been trying to get in as much sailing before the end of the season. Unfortunately my real job is keeping me extra busy lately so getting out during the week is rare and the weekends are all we have. I dodged the Big E bullet this year and got my 1st Mate to go to the Norwalk Boat Show with me. We would love to get together the only problem is finding the time. It might be best to plan something for after the boats are put away. I know mine will be in until October 28th, level permitting. One good thing I got at the Boat Show was my Reg.# because the boat came from NJ they had to be changed. I put them on today and they look great. I also got Candlewood Lake as my hailing port for the transom.

Best regards,

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Response Posted - 09/23/2012 : 18:19:49

We'll sail through the end of October...sometimes we need to bundle up; thermies and foulies, but as long as the sun is strong, it's a fun time

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Response Posted - 09/24/2012 : 12:01:24

I, unfortunately, have to quit a little early this year- The boat will start drying off shortly after 9am on October 6th. Its starting to get chilly here, anyway- I'm already missing diving off the bow pulpit!

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Response Posted - 09/24/2012 : 19:28:05

Haul out day - 29Oct11

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 09/25/2012 : 18:14:25

Last year I hauled on 28 October. Weather went downhill fast as shown above.
I hope to be sailing 'til Halloween!

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islander
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Response Posted - 09/26/2012 : 14:20:11

Just paid my winter storage contract today. Haul out the week of 11/5. Life ends then...

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 09/26/2012 : 15:14:57

What's this winter that you all speak of? Boats stay in year and are sailed round in Seattle. Of course it rarely gets warm enough here to go swimming off of the boats in the summer...

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 09/26/2012 : 20:31:35

Alex - if you'll note my original post, I specifically included those of the "the great frozen north", anticipating there'd be someone from a zone 3 or 4 climate asking "what's all the fuss about haulouts?". "We don't need no stinkin' haulouts because the weather is always beautiful year round" (or at least it doesn't get unbearably cold).
But woe and fie on ye of eternal nice weather! First of all you don't have any way of marking the passage of time and second you never get to experience that sweet, sad autumnal sentimentality. Of course, once the holidays are over and old man winter kicks in, all bets are off and we're planning our charters in BVI and Cabo...

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Response Posted - 09/27/2012 : 03:10:30

I was reluctant to say anything myself, but these odd Autumn rituals I read about here are most curious. The only hauling I'll be doing this Autumn on San Francisco Bay is an occasional six-pack and ice once the summer winds die down. The only "sweet, sat autumnal sentimentality" I'm experiencing has more to do with "Autumn of my life" issues as the years pile up, and on that same note I'd just as soon NOT be marking the passage of any more time, thank you very much :)

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Response Posted - 09/27/2012 : 03:39:50

This is my first time dealing with a winter haul-out. My boat Peanut has only been in the water since July 3, with fresh bottom paint. I was considering leaving her in the water this winter, but I am curious to see the condition of the bottom after a few months in the Mississippi River. The balanced rudder that I built last winter performed great, with just a small amount of 'flutter' felt in the tiller. It is like adding power steering!! I will be making an A-frame to drop the mast. When I put the mast up, in July, I had 3 friends help and it almost got ugly. That tall rig mast is HEAVY. I am going to keep the boat in the water until late Nov or early Dec, then I can start on some more improvements projects. This sailing season was great, although a bit hot around here in July and Aug. Can't wait til next year!!!!

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Response Posted - 09/27/2012 : 09:20:57

I can haul the boat out or leave it in the water here in Maryland, since the marina uses a few water circulators to reduce ice to a minimum.

Last year I constructed a boat cover out of silver plastic tarps with double-sewn seams, a door, and little tarp-cones tied onto each stanchion and onto the mast. I installed grommets all around to hang gallon jugs of water. But it was too warm last winter to use it. This winter I will probably put it on the boat when we get our first snowstorm. I modeled it after the canvas (sunbrella?) cover a marina neighbor bought for $1800 for his Beneteau 323. I hope it snows - It was a hell of a lot of sewing out on the lawn in the cold sunshine last February!

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Response Posted - 09/28/2012 : 08:58:29

My mooring is a 40' float that holds 2 boats; the club is pulling out the floats on about Oct 15, so my life becomes disappointing and unlivable after that. The club is also handling my boat haul out as well, so scheduling isn't a issue.

My dad now has his boat shrink wrapped, he said he has two big tarps and some PVC pieces from his boat cover that I can have for mine. This will be the first winter hull #2818 has spent under cover in at least 3 years.

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Response Posted - 09/29/2012 : 06:04:23

Our haul out day was yesterday; a day that is in our past. Thank God!

We spent our first season at Baypoint Marina in Marblehead Ohio. A beautiful place but one that is plagued with shallow water and a 45 minute motor trip before we could sail. I put new tires on the trailer two weeks ago and had the mast taken down last Monday. The plan for yesterday was to secure the mast for transport, float Karma onto the trailer and move her to her new home at Toledo Beach Marina in LaSalle, Michigan. This will knock off 1 hour of driving time to the marina each way and 40 minutes of motoring time to Lake Erie. Toledo Beach is right on Lake Erie with plenty of big sail boats (Bay Point had 3 sail boats).

I brought the Admiral along to help.She is not convinced that sailing is for her as yet but we're working on it. We spent the morning making supports to secure the mast and removing all of the "stuff". We started through the marina to the gas dock where we had the holding tank pumped out, then through the marina channel, under the bridge to the ramp. I was told that the channel had 17 ft. of water and most of the boats use that route to exit the marina so I thought that we would be fine. We had a turn into the ramp area after we passed under the bridge and immediately ran aground about 1 ft off the channel. Finally got off after about 15 min of trying and got stuck again. I had to remove the rudder and the Admiral had to get off the boat to push us off.

The marina haul-out crew just happened to pass by then and we begged them to fit us into their schedule so that we could be on our way. They agreed and I motored the boat back across the marina to the lift using the outboard to steer. I finally arrived, they lifted us out, we secured Karma to the trailer and drove to Toledo Beach.

We did arrive safety about 90 minutes later. Karma is dirty but no worst for the wear. We're parked next to a 47 ft Beneteau until they move her to a spot for winter storage. I'll be back to Toledo Beach this week to give Karma a good bath and put her to sleep for the winter.

We didn't get much sailing time in this year but we did learn a lot about sailboats. I'll spend the winter getting ready to make improvements in the spring. Planning on a new stove, new electrical panel, refinish the teak, reseal the windows and run the lines back to the cockpit.

Looking forward to next year.

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Response Posted - 09/30/2012 : 19:49:17

With five weekends ahead I plan to make the most of them. Last Thursday I took a vacation day and my son and I had a fine day out on Passage.
Next weekend is Columbus Day (a Monday holiday in my area) and usually do an overnight if conditions permit. October in CT can be chilly wet and too windy, or can produce lush, warm, filtered sunlit days of orange sunrises and sunsets and a big golden full moon.
Water temps are still around 70 (21C). They'll be dropping through the sixties throughout the October. I hope to snatch a few more days from old man winter. Let you know how I do…

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Response Posted - 09/30/2012 : 19:59:00

Bruce--I'm so happy my old girl is in your hands! Hope to see her again some day...

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Response Posted - 09/30/2012 : 21:29:17

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by jerlim
 We'll sail through the end of October...sometimes we need to bundle up; thermies and foulies, but as long as the sun is strong, it's a fun time

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Electric jackets by Gerbings are awesome for frostbiting... Sail on!

Sten

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Response Posted - 10/01/2012 : 08:55:43

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tomh
 The plan for yesterday was to secure the mast for transport, float Karma onto the trailer and move her to her new home at Toledo Beach Marina in LaSalle, Michigan. This will knock off 1 hour of driving time to the marina each way and 40 minutes of motoring time to Lake Erie. Toledo Beach is right on Lake Erie with plenty of big sail boats.
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Yeah, plenty of sailboats at Toledo Beach. I once looked at a couple of boats that were for sale there.

Speaking of hauling out, I had an appointment last Friday afternoon to get hauled, but after running aground a few times and not being able to get within 100' feet of the travel lift slip, I had to give up and return to my summer marina a few miles away. I tried again Saturday, but the low water on Lake Erie won again as I kept getting stuck in the mucky bottom. I ended up renting a car hauler on Saturday and moved my cradle to another boatyard that has deeper water. Curently, my boat is temporarily slipped there until it gets hauled out sometime this week.

Call me crazy, but I'm hoping for an early, very snowy and frigidly cold long winter followed by heavy spring rains of biblical proportions to get Lake Erie up to a more workable depth.

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Response Posted - 10/02/2012 : 19:08:26

David
Next time you're passing thru on the Ho Chi Minh and have a spare hour or two, give me a shout. I try to make it a point to work from home on Fridays (if that's your travel day) and we can always get together on a Saturday or Sunday too. You're always welcome and my number hasnt changed.
I've made my arrangements to haul on Nov 3. On that day, I'll be taking Passage from Milford Harbor, to the mouth of the Housatonic, then upriver past the Amtrak bridge and onto Shelton. That's always an adventure so let's make a plan. After that short intermission, Passage will reappear on or around May 1 for its trip back to Milford.

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Response Posted - 10/02/2012 : 19:27:19

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Voyager
 ...I've made my arrangements to haul on Nov 3. On that day, I'll be taking Passage from Milford Harbor, to the mouth of the Housatonic, then upriver past the Amtrak bridge and onto Shelton. That's always an adventure so let's make a plan...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">My birthday! I expect I'll be down on the Gold Coast, but can't say what else might be happening--I'll definitely consider it!

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