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Dave Bristle Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage before going over to the Dark Side (2007-2025); now boatless for the first time since 1970 (on a Sunfish).
Yup--30 miles out, over the horizon, at night in 13' seas and 20-30 winds. I'm not sure why he was waiting to switch on the EPIRB at the end, and not while he was still in communication, just to confirm it was his... Clearly, he wasn't going to save himself or get the boat home.
I'm surprised at all the extra verbiage in the dialog...the ship and the CG giving their full call signs before each transmission. That might be exactly by the book, but certainly not necessary, especially in an emergency...we sure don't do that in the aviation community. I don't think the captain was used to talking on the radio. The only time you hear "over and out" is on TV because it is an incorrect term.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by At Ease</i> <br />Very calm and professional.
I'm surprised at all the extra verbiage in the dialog...the ship and the CG giving their full call signs before each transmission. That might be exactly by the book, but certainly not necessary, especially in an emergency...we sure don't do that in the aviation community. I don't think the captain was used to talking on the radio. The only time you hear "over and out" is on TV because it is an incorrect term. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I think, when stepping off your vessel into a rubber raft in the northern Pacific in late September, "over & out" might be the <i>most</i> appropriate thing to say.
The PIRB was most likely the water actuated type and you are supposed to float them next to the raft securely tied. I liked how fast he rattled off his location. I insert dot in between, but screw hours, minutes, seconds. SOP on both sides. Panicking wont help anybody... Having the handheld nearby is a plus...
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by At Ease</i> <br />Very calm and professional.
I'm surprised at all the extra verbiage in the dialog...the ship and the CG giving their full call signs before each transmission. That might be exactly by the book, but certainly not necessary, especially in an emergency...we sure don't do that in the aviation community. I don't think the captain was used to talking on the radio. The only time you hear "over and out" is on TV because it is an incorrect term. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> I once said "over and out" by mistake. I meant to say "out" since I was finished, but I accidentally said "over" like I had been saying at the end of my prior transmissions, so after a short, methodical sounding delay I appended "...and out". Sounds pretty much like what he did.
I am by no means an expert at talking on the radio. I do it very rarely, especially since AIS allows me to keep out of other vessels' way without hailing them. So I'm going to make mistakes and sound a little uncomfortable when I do use the radio. But I think that's better than cluttering up the airwaves with "practice" transmissions.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by TakeFive</i> <br />I once said "over and out" by mistake. I meant to say "out" since I was finished, but I accidentally said "over" like I had been saying at the end of my prior transmissions, so after a short, methodical sounding delay I appended "...and out". Sounds pretty much like what he did. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">"Over" means you've made your statement and are waiting for a reply--it's often not used. "Out" means you're <i>done</i> and will not be transmitting again on this topic. When this captain left the vessel and his only equipment capabable of transmitting 30+ miles, he said "Over and out." Very appropriate as a signal to the USCG that they would no longer be able to communicate with him from land. He had already confirmed that his handheld was out of range by trying it (as he said). The handheld was only going to work with rescue resources when they arrived.
This one was "by the book" in what was a true crisis. I salute both sides--especially this captain.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stinkpotter</i> <br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by TakeFive</i> <br />I once said "over and out" by mistake. I meant to say "out" since I was finished, but I accidentally said "over" like I had been saying at the end of my prior transmissions, so after a short, methodical sounding delay I appended "...and out". Sounds pretty much like what he did. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">"Over" means you've made your statement and are waiting for a reply--it's often not used. "Out" means you're <i>done</i> and will not be transmitting again on this topic. When this captain left the vessel and his only equipment capabable of transmitting 30+ miles, he said "Over and out." Very appropriate as a signal to the USCG that they would no longer be able to communicate with him from land. He had already confirmed that his handheld was out of range by trying it (as he said). The handheld was only going to work with rescue resources when they arrived.
This one was "by the book" in what was a true crisis. I salute both sides--especially this captain. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Ah, yes you are correct sir. This is the only time I know of where over and out is the appropriate response...
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