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I see you're in Texas... What's the geographical range of your search, and what characteristics are you looking for (keel, rig, vintage,...)? Are you familiar with the changes that were made to the C-25 over its production life--primarily in the early 80s and in 1989? There are many threads discussing them, such as [url="http://catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20092"]this one[/url]. You can also use the Search function above to find more information.
When I was looking for my boat 5 years ago the only C25's I could find in the state were for sale in the DFW area.
Check with Carol at Inland Marina over on Lake Ray Hubbard. Another place to check is with a guy that goes by "Sailboat Mike" at SeaLake yachts on Lake Lewisville (not sure if he's still there). He helped me negotiate on C25 that was at Lake Grapevine. We never could come to an agreement though.
There's also a place on I-35N in Lewisville called LaVida Starship. Strange name for a sailboat shop but they seem to know where the boats are for sale in the area -- >> http://www.lavidastarships.com/Home_Page.php
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by GaryB</i> <br />...If you don't find what you want over the winter I'm probably going to sell my boat next spring.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...and Gary's '89 wing keel is by many standards the pick of the entire litter--possibly the best value in a 25' coastal cruiser ever built! (...unless you're a serious racer--then a tall rig fin keel might be better.) You guys should talk!
You might pay more to get an 89-91, but you'll eventually want those upgrades, so you'll pay for it in the end. Plus, the time you spend installing those parts keeps you from actually sailing.
kc5dlo: The C-25 is a great boat, but you might consider other options too. On your craigslist I see a couple of O'Day 25s, these have taller headroom than the Catalina-25 (although they won't give you standing room). The C&C 25 and Cal 25 also look interesting. The O'Day 240 seems like a nicely updated boat for the price and includes a wing keel.
I'm a Catalina 25 fan, but I wouldn't limit myself to that one model.
But if you were like me, I had a set $$ amount to spend, not much. I was pretty much stuck with buying a boat on my lake because the cost of hauling, trailering, shipping and launching a boat purchased somewhere else drove the price out of my budget. If I had been shopping for a boat in the $15k+ range, then that cost (Up to $3k) would have been more manageable.
There were a couple Catalinas for sale recently in Scott's Marina....a 25 and a 27 I think. Don't know if they still are, but I know a few folks with boats at Scott's I can ask if you want. If you've got alot of $$$, my friend is selling his '05 C36....I bet he'd take $110k for it.
But really...Grapevine is a great sailing lake but is a bit expensive. I chose Eagle Mountain....Harbor One is the least expensive.....the Fort Worth Boat Club is the most. I'm at Eagle Mountain Marina and can take you sailing if you'd like to come check out the lake.
There are (or were) also a few C25's for sale out at Eagle Mountain. When I was at Harbor One, I counted 12 C25's in the marina. You might stroll the docks, make note of the slip numbers of any boat you're interested in.....I might be able to help you contact the owner.
BTW - I'm 6'4 as well.....you can forget about standing headroom in the C25 unless the pop top is up....and then you can only stand under it. The cabin roof comes to my shoulders.
Tall guys like us need some pretty big boats if we want to stand up straight down below.
I heard at dinner last night there is a C27 for sale at Seven Coves Marina on Lake Conroe for $3k. I would also suggest keeping any eye on CL in Austin as you're doing as Lake Travis is still low. I picked up my '84 fixed keel there in July for $2400 with a brand new 4 stroke Nissan. And if you want an idea on shipping, I paid a grand even to have the boat derigged, shipped from Austin to Conroe, rerigged and launched. Good luck finding the perfect boat!
When we bought our C-25 we also looked at a 1984 O'Day 25. It's headroom seemed to be right around 5'10", I'm a hair higher and could almost stand up in it. I couldn't in the C-25 (without raising the pop-top). It seemed like a nice boat, but I was pretty inexperienced when shopping and might look at things differently now.
The 25 footer with the tallest headroom that we saw was an Ericson 25+. However I don't think that any of those are really designed to be trailered. The beam is 1' wider than a C-25 and they have fixed keels and often have inboards.
Grapevine Lake looks pretty small on the map. Do you intend to overnight on the boat? Why not get a day sailor with a tiny cuddy cabin but more cockpit? It'll be cheaper to maintain with fewer systems and could be sailed more comfortably with a group of friends. It would also be easier to trailer since rigging would be more straightforward. I could see going either all out performance on an older design racing dinghy or for the comfort and style of a keel boat with something like a Pearson Ensign or Cape Dory Typhoon. I've raced on Catalina Capri 22s, they are also a day sailor size and are a lot of fun. If I didn't plan on sleeping on the boat I'd take a Capri 22 over a C-25.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by kc5dlo</i> <br />Thanks for the feedback! I have been focusing the search on craigslist to 400 miles. Been looking at the brokerage boats on Yachtworld as well. The Sailing Texas listings are also on my daily viewings. As for specifics, I am in the DFW area and will be keeping the boat on Lake Grapevine. I am mostly drawn to the later model WK. I understand that the WK version has a little more headroom and at 6'4", I need all I can get. Added to the list would be a trailer. Not for the boat to sit on but to occasionally pull the boat for maint. Also save on tranporting the boat if it is not found on Grapevine. I will give the folks at LaVida and Inland a shout. Maybe they have something on their radars. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> I've got everything your looking for including the trailer.
Steve - I found quite a few on yachtworld.com and sailboatlistings.com
I ended up buying a 1984 C25 Swing Keel from a guy in NJ because it had all the features I was looking for and the seller was willing to transport it up to CT for $250. Keep checking eBay as well, sometimes some deals come up but you have to act fast and the good deals are risky. If you find something up this way, I'm sure someone on the forum with experience could check it out for you initially. Best of luck and welcome back to sailing.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by kc5dlo</i> <br />...I am mostly drawn to the later model WK. I understand that the WK version has a little more headroom and at 6'4", I need all I can get. Added to the list would be a trailer. Not for the boat to sit on but to occasionally pull the boat for maint. Also save on tranporting the boat if it is not found on Grapevine...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">The lower floor-pan in the '89-91 revision was made possible by discontinuing the swing keel in favor of the wing, which draws only a couple of inches more than the fully raised swinger. The '89-91 fin keel (14" deeper) uses the same floor, so has the same headroom, which is just about adequate for a 5'9" guy like me (except my C-25 was an '85, which required a slight stoop).
O'Day made some nice boats back then... is no longer in business and does not have the third-party resources of the Catalinas. Hunter... I looked at 'em... All I'll say is, "more of a lot of stuff you see (like room), less of a lot of stuff you don't" (like fiberglass, aluminum, and stainless steel).
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