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albert
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Initially Posted - 01/21/2003 : 23:15:55

The forecast for S. Florida is for 32 degree F weather for Friday and Saturday morning. My boat is in the water in a marina. Water temp is about 70F.

I haven't a clue as to what I'm supposed to do, if anything.

Do I need to drain the water tank and all hoses? Is there a safe "consumable" antifreeze? (Vodka :-)? )

What do I do for hoses connect to the thru hulls?

Holding tank?

How about the outboard?

Albert Iturrey
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Abacus': http://www.comhertz.com/abacus

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 01/22/2003 : 00:01:04

With a water temp above freezing !!!! I would not worry about it. If you do want to do someting drain the water. Remove any drinking suplies. If you have shore power put a small electic heater on board like the one from West marine with the frost alarm. It will come on when interior temp gets below what you set it for. My only BIG concern would be the outboard. Its power head is well above the water and the water traped inside the head will freez and can cause damage. Drain it and either wrap it well or pull it.

Doug&Ruth
Triska (Alberg 29)
Tacoma Wa.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/22/2003 : 01:00:52

Firstly, www.weather.com shows that Miami will only go down to 46 degrees overnight on Friday, so I don't think you have anything to worry about.

Even if the temperature were to go down to 32 degrees, I still wouldn't do anything, because your boat is sitting in and over 70 degree hot tub which will act like a radiant heater keeping everything nice and warm. An overnight air temperature of 32 degrees is not enough to cool the mass of both the boat and engine to even allow frost to form on the outside let alone freeze water that is internal to each.

Just sit back and relax, besides if it's any comfort, I personally know of people who don't even winterize their boat motors up here in the frozen tundra of Michigan, they just let them hang off the transom all winter long without thinking anything of it. Our current temperature is 11 degrees with a wind chill of -1.

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
C25 SR/FK
Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 01/22/2003 : 01:26:30

Albert, did you post this just to annoy everybody north of the Florida state line?<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Seriously, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. No water is really going to freeze down there. It takes a whole lot of energy loss to get a liquid from almost freezing to just barely frozen. And ice doesn't start ripping stuff apart until it's really, really frozen. The air temp won't be low enough long enough to ice anything. Besides, surrounded by 70*F water, you're not exactly going to have frost on the docks, it'll be more like steam.<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle> You might want to put on more than a T-shirt, shorts and flip-flops if you're going to be outside for long. Maybe even a wetsuit if you go diving. I realize these are hardships for citizens of the Conch Republic,<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle> but be brave. Maybe you could add some of that "consumable antifreeze" to your blood stream just to be on the safe side!<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

-- Leon Sisson

(Shivering all the way up in chilly central Florida. Come on, where's the sympathy? It only got up to the 70's here today!)

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 01/22/2003 : 05:29:43

Freezing water in Miami. Come on now. Got up the other day and the temperature at the lake house was -20 F. Now that's freezing!

Seriously, Albert, you really don't have anything to worry about. If osmepneo were down there, in the water, ready for a sail, don't I wish, I wouldn't do anything. I've been inside the cabin when the outside tempature was in the 20's and surprised at how comfortable the inside was.

As others have said, "Don't worry, Be Happy" and enjoy your 70 degree weather. I know I will next week.

Don Peet
c25, 1665, osmepneo, sr/wk
The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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Response Posted - 01/22/2003 : 08:27:42

Mt. Washington, this AM, 33 below with 125 (yes, that's right, 125)mph wind. Roll on Spring!!! There is no need to sweat the water tank or holding tank freezing. As others have so ably said, it won't be cold long enough for you to worry about it, especially in 70 degree water. BTW, last Saturday, air temp ~22, on Orleans beach, outer Cape Cod, I saw two surfers enjoying (!?!?) the tremendous surf from the storm offshore. They were in full drysuits, hood, boots and gloves. I still think they were nuts.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 01/22/2003 : 10:57:16

If your still in the water, i.e. not in a trailer on land, don't do a thing. The heat from the saltwater at the dock should be enough to keep you going...Its not like your going to get 14 consecutive dates below 18 degrees!!! like we have had up here!

dw

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albert
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Response Posted - 01/23/2003 : 01:26:13

Thanks for the info.

I guess Abacus is actually sitting in a hot tub and I've nothing to worry about.

Albert Iturrey
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marzluff
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Response Posted - 01/24/2003 : 17:49:39

What is it with all these northern sailors? We went sailing today with snow in the cockpit, ice on the rudder, and the main sheet stiff with frost. You guys actually take your boats out of the water? Bunch of wimps!<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>I'm just glad I live in South Carolina.

Mike
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/24/2003 : 18:31:56

"What is it with all these northern sailors? We went sailing today with snow in the cockpit, ice on the rudder, and the main sheet stiff with frost. You guys actually take your boats out of the water? Bunch of wimps!" - Mike Marzluff

It's okay, Mike,...I can remember when I had my first beer!

I'm happy that you were able to go sailing today in what YOU think is inclement weather, but where I come from, we call that beach weather!

The naive think we haul out because of a little snow in the cockpit, some ice on the rudder, and a slightly frosted main sheet, but that is just small stuff. The reason we haul out is the foot thick layer of ice between our boats and the water.

Oh, by the way, Mike Marzluff from South Carolina, this is from SailNet,

"We are legally obligated to collect sales tax on all internet orders originating in South Carolina." - SailNet

Now, THAT'S a shame.

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
C25 SR/FK
Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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marzluff
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Response Posted - 01/24/2003 : 18:54:12

That may be so, but I can, and have, gone to the sailnet warehouse and scrounged around in their scratch and dent pile. I saved more than I'll ever spend in sales tax. As you sit by your fire in the frozen north, be jealous, for Sunday 50 degree temps, clear sky, and 10-15 knot winds are forecast!

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/25/2003 : 02:16:25

What is it with all these northern sailors?...Bunch of wimps!I'm just glad I live in South Carolina...As you sit by your fire in the frozen north, be jealous, for Sunday 50 degree temps, clear sky, and 10-15 knot winds are forecast! - Mike Marzluff

Mike,

For someone so happy to be sailing, you sure do show quite a bit of hostility towards your fellow sailors. Where I come from, sailors don't gloat over another sailor's situation.

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
C25 SR/FK
Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 01/28/2003 : 08:57:24

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>

Oh, by the way, Mike Marzluff from South Carolina, this is from SailNet,

"We are legally obligated to collect sales tax on all internet orders originating in South Carolina." - SailNet

Now, THAT'S a shame.

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
C25 SR/FK
Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie
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Don't yell too loud Don, because according to the Michigan's Department of the treasury, You are obligated to pay a 6% Use tax on any items you purchased outside the State and report it as an addition on your MI-1040...
http://www.michigan.gov/treasury/1,1607,7-121-2143_2153-15482--,00.html

http://www.michigan.gov/treasury/0,1607,7-121-2143_2153-5931--,00.html

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
Chief Measurer C-25/250 National Assn.
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Ray Seitz
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Response Posted - 01/28/2003 : 12:14:53

Don't store it like this. <img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3df06b3127cce944032ddb12f0000002410" border=0>

Ray Seitz C 250WB #628 Sea Major

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/28/2003 : 13:56:22

"Don't yell too loud Don, because according to the Michigan's Department of the treasury, You are obligated to pay a 6% Use tax on any items you purchased outside the State and report it as an addition on your MI-1040..." - Duane

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> Keep your voice down, will ya?

(PS: If any treasury people heard that, please send the audit notice to me and I will gladly pay any taxes or fines.)

Sincerely,

Duane Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
Chief Measurer C-25/250 National Assn.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 01/28/2003 : 14:54:30

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
For someone so happy to be sailing, you sure do show quite a bit of hostility towards your fellow sailors. Where I come from, sailors don't gloat over another sailor's situation.

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>
Don, Don, Don... Getting a little testy... Perhaps withdrawal is starting to take its toll? Take three deep breaths and then repeat: "It will soon be warm, the wind will be blowing, and my sails will be full again." Then open a beer, sit down in front of an electric space heater, and run Arlyn's video clip--over and over.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/28/2003 : 20:59:40

"Don, Don, Don... Getting a little testy..."

Actually, I thought I was the CALM one when I was responding to that post, which I thought to be a bit testy.

But you are right, I am getting a little anxious.

When is $@?%$#ING May 1st going to get here?

(Did I say that out loud or was I just thinking that?)

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
C25 SR/FK
Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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