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bear
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Initially Posted - 02/25/2013 : 09:52:21

Just read about a 29ft sailboat in trouble off California coast, out in weather probably shouldn't have been out in to begin with.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 02/25/2013 : 14:41:26

[url="http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/25/us/california-missing-boat-children/index.html?hpt=hp_t3"]One article[/url]. I'm suspicious... Hope I'm right.

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AtEase
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Response Posted - 02/25/2013 : 16:33:33

Don't know if it true or not, however...65 miles offshore, 29' boat, small craft advisory, no working gps, small children, no life raft, no EPIRB, no PFDs etc.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 02/25/2013 : 17:23:05

How would anyone put themself and their guests at such dire risk? You never know when your number will be up. But to add your wife, child and others to the casualty list is irresponsible.
50 degree water is a death sentence.

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islander
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Response Posted - 02/25/2013 : 17:36:21

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">How would anyone put themself and their guests at such dire risk? You never know when your number will be up. But to add your wife, child and others to the casualty list is irresponsible.
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Gee Bruce, You would have to ask the guy with the 27 people aboard his Silverton last summer in Oyster Bay. You can't cure STUPID even with a license.

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pfduffy
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Response Posted - 02/25/2013 : 18:09:08

Dave - I read a similar article earlier this afternoon. No reports of missing persons. I hope it is some sort of hoax.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 02/25/2013 : 19:26:39

50 degree water is a death sentence, but it is also the normal sailing up here year round in the Salish Sea (and most of the west coast).

It sounds like their electronics failed, not that they didn't have them to begin with. Where did you read that they don't have any PFDs?

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Response Posted - 02/25/2013 : 20:18:08

PFDs won't help at this point--except to make it easier to find the bodies. But I'm still suspicious...

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Response Posted - 02/25/2013 : 20:35:56

[url="http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/02/25/4-missing-off-bay-area-coast-near-pillar-point-after-abandoning-ship/"]Another story[/url]. Apparently the call came from out there, based on triangulation by the CG receivers.

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Response Posted - 02/26/2013 : 16:48:51

The Coasties are thinking what I was thinking... [url="http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/26/us/california-missing-boat-children/index.html?hpt=hp_c1"]Today's CNN story[/url].

Hope they get 'em and slam 'em. But the mystery is that apparently somebody was out there with a radio...

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bear
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Response Posted - 02/27/2013 : 12:01:38

I just seen on CNN the coast Guard is stopping the search for that sailboat, hoax or not.

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Response Posted - 02/27/2013 : 18:55:12

If the call was true, hang the captain. If not, hang the person who called it in. If they did triangulate the call and it came from offshore, I'll bet it came from a bored crewmember on a real boat. Hang him!

Sten

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/27/2013 : 22:47:51

Up to 10 years in jail, big time fine, billed for the cost. I can think of a few moderators, but intentional fraudulent calls should always get the max. 10 years and penniless when you get out sounds about right.

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PZell
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Response Posted - 02/28/2013 : 10:11:21

The call was not triangulated. They only got a LOP so conceiveably the call could have come from the shore side.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 02/28/2013 : 11:15:14

Jargon-check: LOP

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 02/28/2013 : 11:34:11

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
 Jargon-check: LOP

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Line of position....

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 02/28/2013 : 18:47:28

They had some basis for estimating the boat was 60-65 miles out on that line--the one article says using "the boat's radio signal and radar"--the boat's radar?? I don't know how unless they were able to triangulate on one or both of those transmissions--maybe one LOP from a radio tower and one from a radar receiver of some sort.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 02/28/2013 : 19:34:34

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
 They had some basis for estimating the boat was 60-65 miles out on that line--the one article says using "the boat's radio signal and radar"--the boat's radar?? I don't know how unless they were able to triangulate on one or both of those transmissions--maybe one LOP from a radio tower and one from a radar receiver of some sort.
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Yeah, the Coasties don't scramble without some sort of position data. Which makes this one mysterious.

Sten

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