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TakeFive
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Initially Posted - 03/13/2013 : 10:22:19

New toy!!! We're planning to do a little more cruising this year, so I picked up the nice [url="http://www.magmaproducts.com/Products/Marine_Products/Gas_Barbeque_2/MK2/A10-207/a10-207.html"]double-wall Magma Kettle 2[/url]. I found this including the rail mount kit for a bargain price on ebay, so I bid on it and got it for $148 plus shipping. The grill alone is normally $195-230 at Defender/Jamestown/WM/etc. and the mounting kit around $46, so assuming it arrives with no damage or missing parts I think I got a pretty good deal.

I'm planning to mount it from the vertical brace on one of the perch seats. Have any of you done this? Comments on how it works?

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PO of Take Five, 1998 Catalina 250WK #348 (relocated to Baltimore's Inner Harbor)
New owner of 2001 Catalina 34MkII #1535 Breakin' Away (at Rock Hall Landing Marina)

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Response Posted - 03/13/2013 : 10:35:08

we just traded in our square magma for this round unit as well: Cooked a couple pots of coffee so far: french press style, and worked great.

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Response Posted - 03/13/2013 : 10:41:55

Congrats on the bargain, Rick!

I've been following your discussions here and on sailnet, and you raise lots of good issues and ask good questions that I have thought about but never raised. Thanks for all your helpful contributions!

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Response Posted - 03/13/2013 : 11:26:38

Very cool, now you sir, have the proper mindset on boat upgrades! That and a new cooler, and life's good.

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Response Posted - 03/13/2013 : 12:02:48

Nothing better than dropping the hook, open the wine, watch the sunset and grill an excellent meal...

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Response Posted - 03/13/2013 : 12:21:05

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Davy J
 Nothing better than dropping the hook, open the wine, watch the sunset and grill an excellent meal...

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I'm planning to mount it from the vertical brace on one of the perch seats. Have any of you done this? Comments on how it works?
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With the mount that's pictured, you can almost mount that thing anywhere you have a rail.
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Why even drop the hook? One of the enduring memories of our charter cruise in the Chesapeake last summer was cooking hot dogs on that boat's grill while underway. We had planned to go from Annapolis to Magothy River, but we decided we'd just bake in the heat once we stopped, so we kept sailing all he way to Worton Creek and cooked lunch while the "Otto the Pilot" steered.

But seriously, we did drop the hook from our own boat in the only cove near us a few times last year, and we realized a proper marine grill would be really handy. I did use our portable camping grill on the deck once, but I was not happy with the safety or cleanliness (rust spots) of that arrangement.

FYI, the mounting brace clamps around the tube, and although I have not seen it yet, I suspect that a horizontal tube wouldn't be so good because the clamp could rotate around the tube, causing the grill to droop. Others who already have the grill can comment on this.

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Response Posted - 03/13/2013 : 13:12:41

I used my Magma with the mount on the horizontal part of the stern rail, never had a problem with it slipping. Purchased my chargoal grill in 1981 and it's still going strong, had to replace the grill once or twice as it rusted but the that's to be expected being around saltwater.

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Response Posted - 03/13/2013 : 13:44:51

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">FYI, the mounting brace clamps around the tube, and although I have not seen it yet, I suspect that a horizontal tube wouldn't be so good because the clamp could rotate around the tube, causing the grill to droop.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
The clamp is way stronger than you might think. It can be mounted either way. I use two of those clamps (just the clamp part)on my solar panel, they don't budge.

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I thought I had a photo of my grill, This the only photo I could find, I've changed out to the Magma Catalina Infrared version, all of the clamps are horizontal in this photo, including the solar panel.

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 03/13/2013 : 14:00:04

Thanks for the info. That may open up some other options, although I need to place it in a way that it does not obstruct the seats.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 03/13/2013 : 14:32:40

We mount ours on the stern using the same mount you've got. It's mounted horizontally as sorta shown in my picture, and it's never slipped although I'm careful to crank it down when I put it on.

They tell you not to assemble it on the rail. Take them at their word, until you've got all the bits & pieces lined up and threaded, it's pretty unsteady, and it'd be easy to find yourself looking for your mask, snorkel & fins.

Edit: I just noticed the first photo says "Fully assembled!", that'd be a good thing. It's not like it's a big deal to do if it's not.

Edited by - delliottg on 03/13/2013 14:35:36

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Response Posted - 03/13/2013 : 16:06:03

Does it come with table top feet too? I use mine at home.

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BCG-Woodbury
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Response Posted - 03/16/2013 : 08:58:38

I can't wait to get out this year and do some grilling after a day of sailing. I actually stumbled on a used bargain at the flea market last summer. One vendor had a bunch of marine stuff and I look down and there is a Force10, Stainless barrel-shaped Grill with a Rail Mount, manual/instructions, and a half full cylinder. I asked how much, he said $20, I almost ripped my pocket getting the money out. It was maybe used twice. I replaced the Brass handle with a SS cabinet handle for $5. Oh, I picked up a cover with the Force10 logo for $15 on eBay.

Happy Sailing & Grilling!

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Response Posted - 03/16/2013 : 13:25:02

That's my kind of find! That's an incredible price for a Force 10 BBQ.

Rita & I almost never use our stove in the galley, we do virtually all of our cooking on the Magma. I think about the only exception is making hot water in the morning for coffee & tea.

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 03/16/2013 : 13:44:38

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by pastmember
 Does it come with table top feet too? I use mine at home.
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Legs are available for the Magma grill, but from the instructions it looks like a fairly involved process to remove it from the boat bracket and install it on the legs. So I'm going to take a pass on that. I have plenty of alternatives anyway - a full size grill at home, and a portable camping grill (with a brand new unassembled replacement ready for when it wears out). So no need to use the Magma anywhere besides on the boat.

David - From your picture it looks like your grill might be installed onto a vertical post - perhaps the back support behind the C250 helm seat. Is that correct? I'm still looking for the best possible location. Port transom seat may get in the way with docking maneuvers and dock lines. Starboard transom seat would be better, but will be very close to the outboard (is there a problem with that?). Another option is the rail behind the helm seat, which is why I'm asking about it. If I use the starboard side, this would also be close to the outboard. Port side would probably interfere with the swim ladder.

It's a real challenge cramming so much stuff on a little 25' boat!

Also, I plan to install this while on the hard, so the river doesn't swallow up anything that I drop.

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Response Posted - 03/16/2013 : 14:40:05

I'm pretty sure I mount it on the horizontal bar above the gas locker*, favoring the starboard (outboard) side. I take it off over the winter, so it's not mounted right now. I mount it so the "left" side of it (looking out over the stern) is even-ish with the upright so I can still access the outboard reasonably un-restricted (I have to raise & lower it each trip). I didn't want it to be close to the boarding ladder because I didn't want someone boarding the boat to have a chance of burning themselves.

*Just FYI: A tiller boat doesn't really have a "helm seat" because of the tiller itself being in the way.

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Response Posted - 03/22/2013 : 18:53:10

Thanks for telling us about your purchase of a Magma Kettle 2 on Ebay, Rick. I hadn't thought to look there for one until you suggested it. I just won a bid on the same grill, new, for about the same price!

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 03/22/2013 : 19:06:24

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Steve Milby
 Thanks for telling us about your purchase of a Magma Kettle 2 on Ebay, Rick. I hadn't thought to look there for one until you suggested it. I just won a bid on the same grill, new, for about the same price!

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Congratulations! Someone on Sailnet had mentioned that they got one off ebay, so I went and found one ending a day later and placed my bid (through a sniper service).

I must confess, I waited until the auction was over before tipping off you guys.

Edited by - TakeFive on 03/22/2013 19:07:23

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Response Posted - 04/14/2013 : 18:18:18

We inaugurated our new Magma grill this evening. We didn't even go sailing - we just cooked right in the slip. (Our marina doesn't mention this in its list of prohibitions, and even if it's an unwritten rule, we're still in pre-season with very few people around to complain.) We started easy with cheeseburgers.

My goal is to get the grill as crappy looking as possible to make it less attractive to thieves.

We're hoping to sail upriver to a nearby cove tomorrow or Wednesday to cook out again.

This pic shows how/where I installed the grill on my boat:

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Response Posted - 04/14/2013 : 20:05:10

I like where you mounted it, although I'd be worried about grease dripping on my outboard if I were cooking chicken or ribs or something that tends to render fat as it cooks. When mine is mounted, it's over the water so if there's any dripping to be done, the fish get the benefit.

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Response Posted - 04/14/2013 : 20:07:19

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by delliottg
 I like where you mounted it, although I'd be worried about grease dripping on my outboard if I were cooking chicken or ribs or something that tends to render fat as it cooks. When mine is mounted, it's over the water so if there's any dripping to be done, the fish get the benefit.
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It's an optical illusion from the angle of the pic, but the grill is actually slightly to starboard of the motor. Hopefully we'll be swinging at anchor, so the wind would blow anything astern. But I will keep an eye on it just in case.

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