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mcl2
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Initially Posted - 01/28/2003 : 22:34:33

I am in the process of researching the Catalina 250 Water Ballest and i was wondering if there are any changes through out the years of the 250 model line? Is there one year to stay away from, is there one year that is better? Is there one year that they made significant changes? thanks for the help!!!!

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 01/28/2003 : 23:45:12

There have been a few change. The largest group probably between the 96-97 model years. I may need corrections as I'm drawing from memory, I think in '97

a boarding step was added to the coaming

the fresh water tanks were moved from the galley cabinet to under the V berth

the butane for the stove was changed from a rinky dink cannister in the galley cabinet to a dedicated locker in the starboard cockpit locker

The mast raising system changed from a stand alone gin pole to a trailer gin pole system

stern rail seats added

jib fairlead tracks lengthened

2nd reef in the main

2003 has also seen some changes. See the comments in the recent thread.

There have been three itterations of rudders. The last of which was only produced in a blade rudder. The first generation had inadequate lift, the second wasn't balanced... though the beaching version could easily be. At any rate, Catalina is upgrading all rudders at a reasonable cost.

For those with wheel steering, the steering system saw a cable change because of failures to dual cable pull pull system. This was in 2000 or 2001 (I think)

I'm sure I've left out several...

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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Ray Seitz
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Response Posted - 01/29/2003 : 07:57:34

Matthew I think Arlyn has got most of the major changes that I can think of. There have been other minor things that changed in addition to a few built in annoyances. <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> There are 9 pages on the C250 forum which have not yet been archived dating back to last spring. I would encourage you to get a beverage of your choice and start at pg.9 and move up to the present. There have been a lot of things discussed since then and a lot of good research can be done. The pages are listed at the bottom of the main 250 topics forum just select the one you want and read away. This is a pretty helpful bunch and questions/comments etc. are encouraged. I would have questions after all that reading. I don't think I would stay away from any 25' Catalina that was still in good shape and well cared for. I would also expect some opinions on which models are better, but that is ultimately your decision.

Ray Seitz C 250WB #628 Sea Major

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/29/2003 : 15:48:49

Wasn't there something about the factory now using the same hull molds for both the WB and WK, so they now have the same freeboard/headroom?

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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bren737
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Response Posted - 01/29/2003 : 17:03:50

Don,

I believe that was in regard to the deck mold, which has been the same on both the WB and WK since 2002. The actual hull mold is still independent for each model, thereby still retaining the difference in cabin headroom/freeboard. Least that's what Dave at Catalina explained to me.

Bren Peterson
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San Antonio, TX

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sailgal
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Response Posted - 02/09/2003 : 00:32:16

After looking at Als trip photos of the Catalina factory and his new boat, I noticed the interior table looks different. My baby is a water ballast, and his boat is wing keel. When i remove my table I'm left with a low level coffee table. His looks like a metal pedestal. Hmmm? Just wondering....

Suzie
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Sarasota FL.

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Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 02/09/2003 : 01:26:27

Mine is a 2000 wk and my table looks like Al's. I think the low level coffee table is standard on the water ballast. Does it have something to do with the retractable keel?

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Tray
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Response Posted - 02/09/2003 : 06:41:26

I see what Suzie's talking about. Look in this picture and you'll see a pedastal for a table instead of the little, wooden underway table.
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I wonder if the dining table will be removable on the new models.

Tray
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 02/09/2003 : 10:13:39

Yes Bryan, the coffee table sits atop the keel trunk. I don't remember if the wings started out with the larger table or not, I'm thinking not but don't hold me to that. The mechanics of the large top was dependent on the use of the lower coffee table mounted to the top of the keel trunk and the size was matched to that of the V berth locker hatch.

Many of us with the water ballast found the tables too large (I took mine off the boat after the first outing) deciding that it wouldn't be used and made access to the v berth locker more difficult as it stored under the locker lid. This storage concept kinda fixed the table size to that of the deck mold.

With the water ballast now using the deck mold of the wing, the large table top may have gone away. We will wait a current production water ballast owner report.

All in all, it was a great design idea being very versitile by storing, mounting in the cockpit or cabin but IMHO was a bit too large.

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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