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binky
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Initially Posted - 05/12/2013 :  08:52:51  Show Profile
I have ordered a replacement traveler car and intend on replacing the lines and cam cleats as well. The parts manual indicates that the traveler-mainsheet line is 75 feet long and I do have about 75 feet of (guessing) original line laying at my feet everytime time the traveler is used. Do I really need the 75 length, it just seems like its about 20 feet of excess? Has anybody used a shorter length or am I missing something here? I may swing the boom out and mark/measure the line to see what length is actually needed. Any suggestions or thoughts?
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 05/12/2013 :  11:29:07  Show Profile
Two points:
First, the mainsheet length needed depends on whether you have a single of double block hanging from the end of the boom. The double block set-up will require that the line be about 15' longer because you will have 4 lengths of line running between the blocks instead of 3.
Second, one way to knock about 9-12 ft. from the mainsheet length needed is to attach a single piece of high quality 1/4" or 5/15" line about 3' long to the end of the boom and attach the boom-end block to that line. Set it up so the "boom" block is close to but not touching the fiddle block on the traveler car when the boom is centered. This will eliminate 3-4 times the distance from the boom to the traveler that you will need to sheet in when changing from a broad reach/run to close-hauled.
Edited by - dmpilc on 05/12/2013 11:32:07
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C25PYLOT
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Response Posted - 05/12/2013 :  11:46:08  Show Profile  Visit C25PYLOT's Homepage
Smart idea.......
Would have never thought of that.
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Response Posted - 05/12/2013 :  12:21:38  Show Profile
...just be careful that swinging heavy block doesn't catch you on the ear during a tack. (I've been brushed harmlessly by the mainsheet a few times...)
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Response Posted - 05/12/2013 :  12:38:35  Show Profile
That's what I was thinking, 3ft puts it about head high if your sitting. Could ruin a perfectly good eye.
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Response Posted - 05/12/2013 :  14:02:41  Show Profile
I'm not concerned with the lengths between the blocks, or changing the set up. Mainly concerned with the excess at the other end of the line.
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Response Posted - 05/12/2013 :  15:03:31  Show Profile
Some will go to a 3:1 purchase and light weight line, that way in light air the weight of the mainsheet does not pull your boom in. We all spend our occasional day sitting to leeward... 'cept Dave.
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Response Posted - 05/13/2013 :  04:07:33  Show Profile
I've left some excess for 2 reasons, neither of them all that wonderful but I'm thinking it might have been a reason for others in the past. One it just makes it easy to jump off the boat and take the mainsheet with you as a line ( it's always right there ) and the second you can run it around a winch and tie off the end of the boom to each side and use it to drop the mast forward.

Anhoo.. I'm with you.. unless anyone else comes up with something I'm gonna cut my rats tail some.
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awetmore
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Response Posted - 05/13/2013 :  06:28:31  Show Profile
http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&whichpage=0.96&TOPIC_ID=24739&

51' is fine (that is what we used on Lutra). 45' should be fine.

The theory from that thread is that 75' is the length necessary when using the mainsheet assembly to lower the mast.
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