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delliottg
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Initially Posted - 05/23/2013 :  16:22:23  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
[url="http://www.20min.ch/community/leser_reporter/story/26701719#showid=72487&index=8"]Boat & trailer win against Jeep[/url]
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shnool
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Response Posted - 05/23/2013 :  17:13:21  Show Profile  Visit shnool's Homepage
Yep, people think when the manufacturer says "up to #5000 towing capacity," what most dealers don't know is it's "as configured," and they rarely ever configure them that way.

Then there is the wheelbase thing.
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 05/23/2013 :  19:27:25  Show Profile
I watched a Jeep Cherokee with a <i>much</i> smaller boat jackknife on a crowded interstate and slide totally uncontrollably into a field--apparently because the driver had to slow down more quickly than he had planned. He and some people around him were very lucky.

Our many discussions here about tow vehicles and trailer brakes are about life-and-death issues, including the lives of people who have nothing to do with this.
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 05/23/2013 :  19:38:20  Show Profile
Looks like the boat was a lot tougher than the jeep. Amazing how little visible damage can be seen.

Just go to show you there are idiots all over the world!
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delliottg
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Response Posted - 05/23/2013 :  19:44:13  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
I just ran the German site through a translation, the roll-over took place between Lausanne & Geneva, traffic was blocked for a couple of hours, and most amazing, nobody was hurt.

They've added about 2x as many pictures since I first posted this, so it's worth it to go back & look again to see how they lifted it off the roadway.
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shnool
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Response Posted - 05/24/2013 :  03:42:07  Show Profile  Visit shnool's Homepage
Trailering is certainly serious business, and you are both correct, it's an important part of what we do. Putting up pictures like this are important reminders of our obligation to the safety on the road.

What gets me is no matter how much prep you do, there are always several people who do NOTHING, or are flagrant law breakers that endanger us all (towing or not).
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OJ
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Response Posted - 05/24/2013 :  08:15:52  Show Profile
We had drum brakes installed on the second axle of a previous 1981 C25 trailer (PA state law,) it made a big difference in stopping ability.

We had quad discs installed on a new trailer built in 2010. Not long after crossing the Tappin Zee Bridge (heading west with boat and trailer in tow) we came around a blind curve and traffic was stopped for construction. Thinking I wouldn't be able to stop in time I was ready pull onto the shoulder. I stood on the brakes (Chevy 1/2t) and voila! We stopped with room to spare. I highly doubt we would have stopped in the same distance with quad drum brakes.

As many here have said before, it's the stopping that really counts.

Be safe out there!
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 05/24/2013 :  15:50:50  Show Profile
I've come upon "Staus" this long and longer on the Autobahn in Germany. It's not unusual to see motorists out of there cars, get lawn furniture out of the trunk and sit on the side of the road and picnic with the rest of the folks stuck waiting. The Polizei will usually post signs on bridges in advance of these kinds of things warning drivers well in advance but, even then, the traffic backs up for miles.

The fact that nobody was injured is a testament to the safety inspection and requirement system for vehicles.
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 05/25/2013 :  15:06:44  Show Profile
I think the old Cherokee, not the Grande Cherokee, was rated for 3500#. Many people also ignore the rest of the tow rating that includes length, height and frontal area. In favor of the jeep, not as a tow vehicle, is the intact passenger compartment. I saw a picture of a Cherokee with a large sailboat that slid forward and stopped on the Cherokee's roof and left the passenger compartment intact. We don't know anything about the circumstances, but towing a multiple of your capacity is not a good idea.
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MattL
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Response Posted - 05/26/2013 :  09:29:20  Show Profile
When we got our Catalina 25 we had a jeep grand Cherokee, a friend towed the boat home with his dodge 1 ton. The first trip I took with the boat was to San Francisco Bay. I towed it with the jeep over the Altamont pass. There was plenty of power, but I was never so scared. When I got home I told my wife we have to get a bigger truck. Went out and got a used Chevy 1ton. Now I wish we had gotten a 3/4 ton, but ce la vie.
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