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BCG-Woodbury
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Initially Posted - 06/08/2013 :  12:39:22  Show Profile
Hello Forum -

I have a 1984 Swing Keel and I'm changing the cable. My winch mount appear to be ben from years of lifting. I removed the stairs and winch and there appears to be a wedge of wood under one side of the mount that puts it a slight angle. Is this wedge original or added by a PO? I'm going to straighten the mount and weld a 1/4" SS plate to add additional bolts. Any thoughts?

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Brian & JoAnne Gleissner
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1984 Catalina 25, SR/SK
Traditional Interior
Lake Candlewood, CT

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 06/08/2013 :  16:00:55  Show Profile
The wedge is original and is shown in the factory drawing of the retractable keel assembly.

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 06/09/2013 :  12:22:25  Show Profile
It is required for the winch handle to clear the steps and make full revolutions.

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BCG-Woodbury
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Response Posted - 06/09/2013 :  15:05:14  Show Profile
Thanks all - Just wanted to be sure. My winch is pretty rusted around the drum. The PO sailed in the salty water so that is probably the reason. I'll clean it up with some rust converter and throw a coat of silver spray on the whole thing. The stairs cleaned up well so all and all the cable replacement will be finished this week. Does anyone know what the factory treads had on them for non-skid? Mine had brown ribbed vinyl stick-on's. I looked for something else but couldn't find anything big enough. I think I'm going with a rubber diamondplate stick-on for now.


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Frank Law
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Response Posted - 06/10/2013 :  11:01:17  Show Profile
Brian-- When replacing the cable ,you should also replace the turning ball inside the tube. Cataline direct probably has a kit which includes eveything for the job..

Frank Law
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hubbardbilly
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Response Posted - 06/10/2013 :  12:32:51  Show Profile
I did the whole swapout of the cable, turning ball, volcano, and eye bolt this summer. Not too complicated. I recommend that if you're swapping out the cable you should just do the whole kit.

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BCG-Woodbury
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Response Posted - 06/12/2013 :  17:37:41  Show Profile
Hey Billy - Thanks, I bought the whole kid from CD. While I was at it I pulled out the stairs and am refinishing them as well. The winch will get a SS plate sistered to the base and 4 more SS bolts to secure it. The PO sailed in salt water so the drum is pretty rusty. Some rust converter should do the job and a spray coat of silver to spruce it up.


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Response Posted - 06/12/2013 :  18:59:55  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by BCG-Woodbury</i>
<br />...and a spray coat of silver to spruce it up.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">To coordinate with your interior?

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Response Posted - 06/19/2013 :  08:52:43  Show Profile
I finally sprang for a new Catalina Direct winch after replacing all the keel hardware on my '83 Swinger. I highly recommend it- after 30 years you don't know when a failure might occur. But my favorite result was that the new winch has a removable handle. So after 30 years of maneuvering past the handle, I can now just walk down the steps. The new winch is also easier to turn, and that's a plus when you're 30 years older than when you bought the boat.
Ed

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BCG-Woodbury
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Response Posted - 06/19/2013 :  20:36:45  Show Profile
Hi Ed -

My winch handle is removable so it must have been a retrofit from a PO. I did spring for a new handle from CD when I bought the Cable Kit because mine is very rusty and I get rust all over my hands when I use it.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 06/21/2013 :  09:25:47  Show Profile
My '84 boat also had a removable winch handle, and the winch looked OEM.
I just changed out the turning ball, hose and cable on my C-22, first time ever for the boat, I'm sure, since we bought her in 1977. The job was surprisingly easy, except for clearing a cable jam on the cable from the winch drum. That took a screwdriver, hammer and 45 minutes.
The turning ball was surprisingly almost like new; very little cable wear. Cable was in pretty decent shape, too, except at the jam.
Anyway, for peace of mind, I'm glad I did it.

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Jay Schkloven
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Response Posted - 06/22/2013 :  08:02:12  Show Profile
If you have the removable handle and the screw on adapter for the handle you might want to take a chisel and lock the adapter on the shaft. Mine would unscrew even when it was tightened. I put a nick on the adapter and the shaft to lock it. Haven't had a problem since.

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BCG-Woodbury
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Response Posted - 06/22/2013 :  11:01:53  Show Profile
Thanks Jay, I might grind a flat on the shaft because I do notice the current adapter slipping a little. The newhandle came with a new adapter.

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