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indecentseas
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Initially Posted - 06/21/2013 :  08:22:05  Show Profile
I would like something in the track up my mast to act as a stopper for the boom so it does not lower all the way when I lower the main. I'd like the boom to come to rest about a foot higher than it does now.

I have some of these sail track stoppers now
http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=167

They can't take the weight of the boom and just slide down to the bottom of the track with it. Higher up on the track the stoppers are able to stop the slugs on the sail from coming down.

Should the sail track stoppers be able to hold up the boom? Perhaps mine is just worn and needs replacing. Or should I get something stronger to hold up the boom?

A related question. I could not take the sail stopper out of the track. I started by hoisting the boom up the track to where the track widens and slipped the boom out. But when I raised the sail track stopper to the wider spot on the track it was not wide enough for the back if the stopper to fit through. Is there a trick to getting them out?

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David Hopkins
Vancouver, British Columbia
'78 Swing Keel, Standard Rig, Dinette
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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 06/21/2013 :  08:39:38  Show Profile  Visit ftworthsailor's Homepage
The stopper that you show is exactly what I am using on my rigging. I use three of them. They seem to be working well as I have them set just above and below the boom slide. I have the boom set exactly where I want it for cruising/racing and never seem to need to move it up or down. As for getting them out of the mast at the opening, I just muscle them in and out as needed. I assumed that they are larger so that they WONT slip out in the event they get loose. I am looking into getting a set of flange covers because the opening is causing me to have to STOP the sail hanks which does not allow me to fold my mainsail completely on the boom. I start with a nice fan-fold and end up with an organized mess as we get to the mast.

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 06/21/2013 :  08:49:30  Show Profile
I use a sail track stop like the one you linked. It holds the boom up. Occasionally, it would loosen and slide down the track. Some Loctite has helped so far.

I have 5 or 6 of these stops, they all came with the boat. Some are different diameters. And one just has a flat piece of metal. Anyway, I used the larger diameter size, I have to wiggle the stopper back and forth to get it to come out of the track.


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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 06/21/2013 :  08:53:36  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by indecentseas</i>
<br /> I could not take the sail stopper out of the track. I started by hoisting the boom up the track to where the track widens and slipped the boom out. But when I raised the sail track stopper to the wider spot on the track it was not wide enough for the back if the stopper to fit through. Is there a trick to getting them out?

Cheers.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I'm not sure, but think you can remove the stopper by lowering the mast and taking it out the bottom. When I got a stopper, I ground enough of the sides off so that it would stay in the slot but come out through the wider opening.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 06/21/2013 :  08:54:34  Show Profile
I found that the initial impact of the boom when the halyard was released tended to knock the stopper down, and it helped to ease the halyard until the boom reached the stopper. Did you try eliminating the nylon washer? Another version of a track stop has a flat plate instead of a cylinder in the track--that might give you more bite.



I can't say about the removal puzzle--sounds like somebody installed it with the mast down--i.e. from the end of the slot.


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redeye
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Response Posted - 06/21/2013 :  09:22:32  Show Profile
[url="http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=1106"]Mast Cleat[/url]

I use a mast cleat. With the round metal pieces with screw tapps in the to fit into the mast slot. ( sail track boom stop, bottom of page ) Holds up the mast and then I can cleat it down like a downhaul/cunningham.


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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 06/21/2013 :  09:52:57  Show Profile
The sail stopper like #2350 in the pic above is made just slightly larger than the gate opening so it won't fall out accidentally. My C-22, and the C-25 also, had one of the "round metal pieces with screw tapp" and a washer in the track below the boom to keep it from dropping too far when the sail comes down. That gizmo can be tightened enough to hold the weight and pressure from the boom. They might be available from CD, or from the factory.

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dasreboot
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Response Posted - 06/21/2013 :  13:30:09  Show Profile  Visit dasreboot's Homepage
i use a track stopper. if you dont have one, a bolt nut and washer would work. probably hold up better as well.

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sethp001
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Response Posted - 06/21/2013 :  16:37:13  Show Profile
Off topic, but why do you want this?

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indecentseas
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Response Posted - 06/22/2013 :  08:17:26  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by sethp001</i>
<br />Off topic, but why do you want this?
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It will keep the boom where I want it and give me more headroom.

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hewebb
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Response Posted - 06/23/2013 :  03:05:51  Show Profile
This is what I use.

http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=459&ParentCat=149

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 06/23/2013 :  16:03:55  Show Profile
Forgot to add, my boom stopper holds the mast about 2" below where the boom would be if the sail were fully hoisted.

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