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WindDancer
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Initially Posted - 06/12/2013 :  18:12:49  Show Profile
Hi,

I need rigging help from members with an asymmetrical spinnaker. I have a 2006 wb 250 and I have purchased an asymmetrical spinnaker, I have already installed a mast crane which I purchased from Catalina Direct. The problem that I'm having is the spinnaker halyard keeps fouling the head of the roller furling jib. How do you run your halyards so that it won't foul the jib. Is the halyard run inside of the mast, along side, do you have a block attached to the mast near the top to pull the halyard aft of the jib head???

I currently have the halyard clipped to the bow, run to a block at the mast crane at the top of the mast and down the port side of the mast. The halyard is then run to the cockpit. No matter how I run the halyard it keeps fouling the jib. Does anyone have photos of how they run their halyard????

Help! Right now I can only sail with the jib furled.

Thanks,
Bruce

PS The boat really moves out with the chute.

Bruce and Suzette
Five O' Clock Somewhere
2006 C250WB #861
Clearlake Ca

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 06/13/2013 :  04:33:56  Show Profile
what mast crane did you purchase? I have a block at the top of my standard masthead and found the same issue with furler fouling, so did not move to a spinnaker, instead making due with poleing out the 155% genny, sailing wing-on-wing. My thought was the lines were just too close to the forestay and furler.

I thought someone posted before about keeping the spin halyard very tight to prevent wrapping.

Does your jib halyard run through a preventer at the top of the mast?

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 06/13/2013 :  06:15:41  Show Profile
On my C25, I had hoped to bring the spinnaker halyard back. I could not figure a way to do so. This photo was taken right after I installed the masthead crane. The halyard was running down to the base of the mast:




I ended up running both ends of the halyard to the bow pulpit. I only bring the halyard back to the mast if I'm going to hoist the spinnaker. You can see the halyard in this picture:






It's not a big deal, because I have to go forward to rig the asym up anyway.


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CJRoxs
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Response Posted - 06/13/2013 :  08:07:41  Show Profile
Does anyone have a picture of what you are calling the "mast head crane?"

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 06/13/2013 :  09:05:01  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by CJRoxs</i>
<br />Does anyone have a picture of what you are calling the "mast head crane?"
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[url="http://catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=2092"][/url]

We have the exact same issue on our C250WB and similarly, I secure the spin halyard to the pulpit until needed.

Biggest concern is that it might get tangled with the furler.

It does tangle when furling the jib when the spin halyard it straight down the mast. I have thought of inserting a SS rod between the crane and the spin halyard block so that it cannot get wound up with the jib during furling.

Paul

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 06/13/2013 :  10:24:52  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Does anyone have a picture of what you are calling the "mast head crane?"<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Here is the link to it:
[url="http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=2092"]Catalina Direct Spinnaker Crane C25/C250[/url]

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Dave Brown
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Response Posted - 06/15/2013 :  07:37:58  Show Profile
I Have had the same problem with my C.250,
Don't Know how the C 25,s work, there on another forum,
so I will not talk about them here.
What I do, even when we race, is roll the Jib up 1st, then rase
the spin. I also have a sock, and that helps.
Yes it takes a little longer this way, But for me, it works.
Good luck.

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WindDancer
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Response Posted - 06/17/2013 :  15:33:19  Show Profile
Thank you all for your solutions.

Paul, I would like to have my halyard run to the cockpit because I do a lot of singlehanded sailing and when things get ugly I want to be able to drop the spin quickly. So what exactly were you thing about a SS rod. I'm not clear on your line of though. Could you please explain to me your thinking, it may be worth a try. What do you think of attaching a block to the mast about 5" from the top so the halyard would go from the block on the crane back to the block on the mast and then down?

The crane that I have is the one in the above photos from Catalina Direct.

I'm not use what you mean by a preventer at the top of the mask????

Thanks,
Bruce



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