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H20boy
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Initially Posted - 02/03/2003 : 19:45:25

After someone determined that they needed my 2000 honda 9.9 more than I did, I found a great deal on a 2001 brand new 9.9 power thrust...Thank God for insurance. Now besides taking it off after every outing does anyone have any great ideas on how to keep this one?

Rick Price
"79" 25' SK/Standard
Tacoma, Wa

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/03/2003 : 19:57:59

I use a master lock outboard lock.

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I've also heard of people drilling a hole through both the outboard and the motor mount, then bolting the two together. This stops the casual thief from simply loosening the mounting screws and running off with the engine.

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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nate
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Response Posted - 02/03/2003 : 22:32:18

I agree with Don.....my Yamaha 9.9 bolts onto the motor mount as well as being locked in place.

Nate Adams
C25 #5695 WK/SR/Trad
Lake Mead, NV

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 02/03/2003 : 22:50:26

Bolt it on and use a somewhat uncommon bolt like a Torx or Allen-Head cap screw... or better yet, a different one on each side.

Or still better yet, a left hand thread ! (heh heh)
I think that will slow them down (very) slightly.

That plus the bar lock will provide as much deterrent as is practical if they want it bad enough they'll hacksaw the mount off.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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Response Posted - 02/04/2003 : 08:26:38

Use regular bolts and peen over the ends after bolting the motor to the mount. You'll have to cut them at the end of the season, but so what?

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H20boy
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Response Posted - 02/04/2003 : 09:18:24

Once again Thanks .....I did have the outboard somewhat locked up to slow down the casual thief...but according to my local boys in blue, the Russian Mafia is all over outboards for their easy resale....hmmm

Rick Price
"79" 25' SK/Standard
Hull # 1237
Tacoma, Wa

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 02/04/2003 : 12:55:08

I too lost an outboard a few years ago. I bought one of those multi strand / braided cables used to lock up bikes. The idea is they are almost impossable to cut through. Thousands of tiny wire strands. I got the type with loops at each end and also bought a very good lock. Its to easy to break the lock tabs off on an outboard so I wraped the cable around the engine twice and locked it to the outboard mount/braket. It can be removed when sailing or left in place.

Doug&Ruth
Triska (Alberg 29)
Tacoma Wa.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/04/2003 : 13:29:56

Like I usually reply to such a post....Please, come and steal mine!!!

All these locks are great and should be excellent deterrents however keep in mind one thing, if they want it, they will get it. So make sure its not a situation where major damage must be done to the boat to get the motor off.

Don - where'd you find that outboard lock...I've never seen one of those before.

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/04/2003 : 13:51:15

"Don - where'd you find that outboard lock...I've never seen one of those before."

It is a Master Lock Outboard Lock that slips over the screw handles. It prevents the handles from turning and when it is installed it is virtually impossible to simply cut the lock.

Master Lock Outboard Motor Lock, West Marine $21.99
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Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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MattL
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Response Posted - 02/04/2003 : 15:10:58

OK, I know I am opening up for some bad karma here.I have an old bike lock like Doug mentioned. Mine is rusted shut. I push it over the motor mount and handle of the motor so it looks like it is all locked up tight with loops of cable, to remove I just slip the cable loops up and off. It acts like a spring to keep the motor straight and I never had it messed with. Motors on either side of my boat have been lifted.

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
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Cat 25 86'
FK/SR _/)

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/04/2003 : 15:28:02

"I bought one of those multi strand/braided cables used to lock up bikes."

"I have an old bike lock..."

Last season there were a couple of outboard thefts from dry slipped boats, and in each incident the modus operandi was to use bolt cutters to simply snip battery cables, steering controls, fuel lines, and security cables.

Bolt cutters go through stranded cables like a hot knife through butter. Remember bolt cutters are used to cut stainless steel rigging at the boat store.

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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ronrryan
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Response Posted - 02/04/2003 : 17:14:14

I have used wire cable, sliding locks, etc, but the best idea I ever saw, and one I intend to employ, was a guy in NY whoo ran electric wire into and out of the engine cowl, back into the boat, wired to a battery and loud alarm, the switch was the type that is quiet when closed, loud when cut. His theory was most thefts are under conditions of low visibility, when it will be supposed that the wire was simply part of the charging system, wire cutters cut the cable, then cut the wire, VOILA a real loud alarm. Worth a try, ron srsk#2343 Orion 1981 in SW FL out of action for the moment with carpal tunnel syndrome (!)

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 02/04/2003 : 17:40:40

I have an 18 year old Mariner on my transom. If someone would steal it, I could get a new motor. Seems as though the best protection against theft is to hang something out there no one wants!

Brooke

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Shelby
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Response Posted - 02/04/2003 : 18:09:36

I use the Master Lock Outboard lock and I also have a heavy duty bike cable that I wrap around it and attach to the boat. At least this will make them have to work at it to get it.

Now, if they could manage to steal my inboard that doesn't work plus patch the hole in the bottom when they are done...that would be great!

Shelby
'82 C25 "Third S", #3208, SKSR, Locked Honda 9.9, Lake Pleasant, AZ

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H20boy
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Response Posted - 02/04/2003 : 21:04:45

At least while she is on the trailer and in front of the house...the new motor will stay put in the garage.....I forgot to mention the one fault in all this...I live in Tacoma...Thanks again..Rick

Rick Price
"79" 25' SK/Standard
Hull # 1237
Tacoma, Wa

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/05/2003 : 08:34:23

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I have an 18 year old Mariner on my transom. If someone would steal it, I could get a new motor. Seems as though the best protection against theft is to hang something out there no one wants!

Brooke

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My sentiments exactly Brooke...Please Please Please come and get it!!!

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
Chief Measurer C-25/250 National Assn.
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tinob
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Response Posted - 02/05/2003 : 10:41:32

Sometimes the safeties we use to insure the motor will be there in the mornin provide just the impetus and challenge that an thief proud of his acumen will need to make the effort. We had such a situation some years ago wherein this fellow took every precaution to keep his new motor on his transom...it was a really big motor on a ski boat. The thief took the motor transom and all.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT

Val Bisagni

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matsche
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Response Posted - 02/05/2003 : 21:34:20

A friend of mine from Beaufort, NC replaced his old, smokin Mercury with a brand new one (don't remember which model) and put the old cover on the new motor. It doesn't look as pretty, but nobody screws with his motor. Said it's a fairly common practice over there.

John Matsche 1985 Cat-25 TR/FK

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