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Voyager
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Initially Posted - 09/08/2013 : 15:27:07

Well, while the rest of the US is baking under a persistent high pressure center, and the SW is putting up with monsoonal heat and humidity, and Texas is cooling down into the 90s, we here in the Northeast are beginning to get cold fronts out of Ontario making for 70 degree days and 50 degree nights. And now that the days and nights are about equal duration, the predawn and early morning temps are chillin' out. Once the initial front has passed, temps rebound but more and more we'll be seeing 60s and 70s.
This year, National Weather Service is predicting a chillier than average second half of Sept.
Around here, I find September and early October sailing (til Columbus Day) to be some of the best conditions for winds, comfortable days, cool overnights and taking multi-day trips. I'm hoping to take a few long weekends in the next few weeks off work (hoping).
My figure of the season is the last 80 degree day. This can be in the last week of Sept or first week of Oct, but then after that its all down hill.
And to me 80 degrees is the benchmark of summer - I really can't be comfortable in shorts, shortsleeves or in swimtrunks whenever the temp is below 80.
When's your favorite time, and what's your "last day" of summer criterion?

Bruce Ross
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bear
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Response Posted - 09/08/2013 : 15:44:16

Our last day is usually based on lake level which is drawn down thru out the summer. Usually last week in Sept. Planning on sailing tomorrow, low 70s and lite winds.

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Response Posted - 09/08/2013 : 16:35:32

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Voyager
 Well, while the rest of the US is baking under a persistent high pressure center, and the SW is putting up with monsoonal heat and humidity, and Texas is cooling down into the 90s, we here in the Northeast are beginning to get cold fronts out of Ontario making for 70 degree days and 50 degree nights. And now that the days and nights are about equal duration, the predawn and early morning temps are chillin' out. Once the initial front has passed, temps rebound but more and more we'll be seeing 60s and 70s.
This year, National Weather Service is predicting a chillier than average second half of Sept.
Around here, I find September and early October sailing (til Columbus Day) to be some of the best conditions for winds, comfortable days, cool overnights and taking multi-day trips. I'm hoping to take a few long weekends in the next few weeks off work (hoping).
My figure of the season is the last 80 degree day. This can be in the last week of Sept or first week of Oct, but then after that its all down hill.
And to me 80 degrees is the benchmark of summer - I really can't be comfortable in shorts, shortsleeves or in swimtrunks whenever the temp is below 80.
When's your favorite time, and what's your "last day" of summer criterion?

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Probably late October. I usually wear shorts into January with a sweater. My wife says it looks weird but I don't care, makes me happy.

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 09/08/2013 : 18:28:54

To me, there's nothing that can compare with mid-May sailing. You've got the whole season in front of you, the days are getting longer and warmer, yet it's not too hot yet.

I've always found September to be depressing. Yes, there's some great sailing weather, but also more gusts (which we definitely noticed today). Also, kids' activities ramp up, and other evening and weekend commitments start to compete for time.

I love sailing all times of the year, but it's sad knowing the days are numbered.

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Response Posted - 09/08/2013 : 20:40:41

We are having days in the upper 70's low 80's and the nights in the mid 30's. the water is getting cold but the winds have been nice. We get strong gust in the summer. Fall brings more steady winds and the lake is more quiet without the summer crowd. Have a four day cruise coming up and then we just wait to see what the weather is doing. Have to be ready to pull the boat off when the early winter storms are threatening. Many people loose there boats off the mooring by waiting to long to get them off the lake before the lake gets real angry.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 09/08/2013 : 22:34:29

I loved the colors of late September/early October sailing when I was on local lakes, but I've been really pounded enough times in September on Erie to pull Pearl by early to mid month. June is also nearly perfect, but we don't always have June weather any more. The Florida panhandle can be a little cool in Feb. and March, but the Sun is warm enough for shorts by mid day. I wouldn't trade my Gulf season for anything.

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Response Posted - 09/09/2013 : 05:54:25

My cutoff is any lower than 45 degrees at night. Usually around Dec 20th.

<< When's your favorite time, >>

Cocktail Hour!

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Response Posted - 09/09/2013 : 10:53:26

I just paid half my winter storage fee to reserve my space...

I don't plan to use it till early November, depending on Atlantic storms. Things will be pretty cool by then, but I can still drop the side-curtains and get out on the water. The tourists are always excited to see the drawbridge go up in town, so I'll be doing my part for a while.

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Response Posted - 09/09/2013 : 11:10:39

In these parts, there can be off-seasons in the dog days of Summer and in the snows of Winter, but I usually sail on the Chesapeake in each month of the year. I find it easier to warm up in cold weather than to cool off in sweltering heat and humidity on my Catalina 25.

So, the coming Fall season means some 80 degree days maybe through October, some cold nights, and some great sailing on the Bay!

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Response Posted - 09/09/2013 : 14:01:16

Not sure if we will get out again before it's time to fly up to Anapolis

But normally we get out each month including October November and December.

Several jobs on the boat before next trip, including Arlyn's Steering upgrade, but that should only take a couple of hours.

Paul.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 09/09/2013 : 16:10:34

Today we relocated to our new marina about 30 miles east on Lake Erie. We expected hot day lots of sunshine and light winds. What we got was a different story. We woke up on the boat this morning to 54 degrees. We got underway before 7 a.m. because we thought the wind would die in mid afternoon. That was the only thing that happened according to plan. We never saw the sun. It never warmed up until after we arrived at the new marina after motoring the last 90 minutes or so. anyway, the boat's in a new home looking forward to next summer.

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Response Posted - 09/09/2013 : 19:15:33

My first winter sailing on the Chesapeake. I imagine I could sail into November but I need some time to do some work on the boat so ILL probably pull it out on Nov 7th ish. After I have practiced with the trailer and have it tuned up.

In Boston I did Frostbite sailing one year and if your racing you can keep warm with all the movement.

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Response Posted - 09/10/2013 : 10:13:42

On Canyon Lake we sail/race year round. In January and February it can be anywhere from low 30's to a 100! (For our 1st Frostbite Regatta it was 85 degrees - 2 years later it was 35 with a north wind and I got hypothermia!)
I'm with GaryB on clothing - I wear shorts and a T-shirt for at least 9 months of the year.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 09/10/2013 : 13:57:44

Here in the Ohio Valley autumn means reefing the main, furling-in or putting on a smaller foresail.

As of the time of this post, weather.com says it's 95 degrees here in the 'burgh.

Edited by - OJ on 09/10/2013 13:59:46

Voyager
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Response Posted - 09/11/2013 : 22:38:45

Crazy New England weather this week - summer's hanging in, more like July in the high 80s. This weekend 70s/40s. My sleeping bag is rated to 20F so I'm good til mid-late October. Definitely going out for a sail Friday night & Saturday!

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Response Posted - 09/12/2013 : 09:26:21

Last year we did a weekend in Greenport on the Columbus Holiday and sailed the day after Thanksgiving Day...we're gonna let 'er ride and see how long we get this year...shorts and tees get swapped for jeans and hoodies, but a warm sun and fair breeze are all we need...

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 09/12/2013 : 09:35:36

If only I could figure out how to add a dodger to my C250, we could extend our season by a few extra weeks. Someone posted a pic of a C250 with dodger once before, but it didn't look that great.

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Response Posted - 09/12/2013 : 17:19:55

Jerry - I gotta agree with you on that. My land rule (hiking, biking, fishing) is the weather's fine if temps are above 50 and not raining! Of course, on a boat you're surrounded by that stuff that can give you a wicked case of hypothermia. I've got my polypro under liner with fleece over and nylon over that. No cotton. Wool socks and hat and fleece gloves finish it. Keeps me toasty out on the water.
I've gotta see how late I can push my marina. I do need to deliver Passage 8 miles across LI Sound and up the river to get her hauled out. Just don't want to do that in the snow and ice.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 10/01/2013 : 18:23:03

Ok - Wednesday here in CT the TV meteorologist is predicting 85+ (29C) temps, even down at the beach. I'm going to be working tomorrow (damn!). I know, I'm lucky...
As the bumper sticker says "I'd rather be sailing". Can't play hooky - tried that last week.
Looks like the weather here is settling into a late summer/early fall pattern. I'm hoping it will last till Halloween and beyond.
Anybody going out tomorrow?

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 10/02/2013 : 18:09:44

I desperately wanted to go out today, but I had a School Board meeting this evening and could not get out of work early enough (plus the tide was running too strongly in one direction to do a round trip within the tight time constraint).

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Response Posted - 10/02/2013 : 19:06:00

I work for EDIS, Inc. (Every Day Is Saturday) I guess I don't understand the problem...

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Response Posted - 10/02/2013 : 20:22:29

I guess we're coworkers Dave.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 10/02/2013 : 20:42:49

Too bad I work for EDIM! Every day is Monday!

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islander
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Response Posted - 10/03/2013 : 13:31:43

I think I'm leaving the boat in this year, Fresh bottom paint in the spring, $450 savings, And sail her till we can't stand it no more! The Marina groups the boats together and sets up De-Icers. I think we can sail through Nov. or so. Jan. Feb. Maybe March will be out but will still be able to go and sit on it with a cup of coffee on nicer days. Then just go sailing in the spring while everybody else is waiting for their launch day. Might be good or a disaster but I won't know if I don't try it.

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Response Posted - 10/03/2013 : 14:21:26

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by islander
 I think I'm leaving the boat in this year,... $450 savings...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Make sure your insurance covers that. It could eat most of your savings.

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Response Posted - 10/03/2013 : 14:47:30

Been there, done that already. Just had to up the wreckage removal.

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