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Downbucket
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Initially Posted - 02/16/2014 : 08:59:08

Hi:

While staring out the window at two feet of snow here in Southern Maine, I decided I needed a diversion so I began looking at pictures of Wingapo. In addition to making me yearn for summer, I bean to think about lashing my tiller at the mooring and wondered how others do this. I set the rudder amidship, wrap a line around the tiller and tie it off to the cleats on both sides of the boat. I've read some articles where the writer suggests it is best to set the rudder to one side or the other and then lash it. What do you do and why?

Will

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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 02/16/2014 : 09:53:20

Hey Will,
I simply loop the mainsheet around the tiller... then tighten the sheet. This cocks the tiller slightly - but not enough to seem to matter much.
Bill Holcomb - - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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indecentseas
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Response Posted - 02/16/2014 : 09:58:59

I like to get the tiller out of the way when I'm on the hook to free up as much cockpit space as possible. That's one advantage to lashing it to the side but then the boat is on a constant turn in the tide. I unbolt it from the rudder anytime I will be at anchor for more than a few hours. This frees up the cockpit and lets the rudder go where it wants.

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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 02/16/2014 : 11:01:44

I use bungie cord(s) with the tiller centered -- the tiller cover takes the friction of the cords, which provide the helm some flexibility (vs rope) should the rudder get knocked.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 02/16/2014 : 12:00:55

I pulled the mainsheet traveler all the way to one side, and then wrapped the traveler line once around the tiller, and then cleated it in the traveler cleat. There were no currents to be concerned about at my slip, but that might be a concern if there was a strong current.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 02/16/2014 : 12:44:51

I don't own a C-25, but we just had a thread where one of our members had [url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=0.56&TOPIC_ID=27830&"]his rudder float off the gudgeons[/url] because he had it lashed to one side. Although in reading his first post, he said he'd had it secured with a cir-clip, but I didn't see where he'd determined if it'd broken or what?

I think as long as you've got your pintals pinned with a hitch pin cotter (we use a stainless one and replace it ever couple of years, usually because we lose it), the rudder can't float up off the gudgeons.

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sailorbaz
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Response Posted - 02/16/2014 : 15:42:27

I've just fitted a kick up rudder sold by CD. When I leave the boat I pull the rudder up to the vertical out of the water. I've had a cover made for it and the tiller. I lash the rudder to the pushpit on one side so it doesn't blow about in the wind.
Sailorbaz

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 02/16/2014 : 21:18:26

I first put my tiller cover on the tiller, then position my tiller in the center of the cockpit. I use the furler line that is cleated on my port side and wind it 1-2 wraps around the end of the tiller and then cleat the line on the starboard side.

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cshaw
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Response Posted - 02/17/2014 : 14:07:10

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by indecentseas
 I like to get the tiller out of the way when I'm on the hook to free up as much cockpit space as possible. That's one advantage to lashing it to the side but then the boat is on a constant turn in the tide. I unbolt it from the rudder anytime I will be at anchor for more than a few hours. This frees up the cockpit and lets the rudder go where it wants.
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Sailing off to one side in a tide is not all that bad. It will keep her from sailing back and forth at anchor.

Also, if someone comes into the anchorage and fouls your anchor or worse, cuts the rode with a prop, you will have to scramble to re-mount the tiller. Any wave action (wind or boat wake) will make mounting the tiller harder. IMHO better to leave the tiller mounted....

Chuck

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sethp001
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Response Posted - 02/17/2014 : 20:02:11

I rigged a little pig tail that holds the tiller up amongst the backstay, centered. It stays attached to the ring on the backstay and has a loop to slip over the end of the tiller.

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Peregrine
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Response Posted - 02/17/2014 : 21:09:51

Because I spend a great deal of time aboard, three days a week in the summer, the space of the cockpit is important.
I tie the tiller tight to the starboard cleat, hard over. This opens up the aft part of the cockpit and makes hanging out much roomier.
I used to then lash the tiller amid ship when I left the boat but have stopped as it seems to make no difference even in storms. The boat seems to swing in the same rhythm as the other boats around me as I said even in storms.
In the photo below you can see the rudder lashed hard over.

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DavidBuoy
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Response Posted - 02/19/2014 : 15:06:20

I believe that you are referring to a previous post where someone had their rudder float away and they spoke about it being turned to one side. The problem with him was that he didnt have a pin in the upper pintle to stop that from happening. The only reason it mattered that his rudder was to the side was because he had a new "balanced" rudder that has part of the rudder go under the boat when centered and therefore impossible to remove while centered. All of this is irrelevant if 1) You have the older style rudder 2) You have a pin in to prevent this type of situation.

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