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gnorgan
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Initially Posted - 02/15/2003 : 02:12:35

Just bought one today from Garhauer Marine of Upland, CA. and will install tomorrow. Just got tired and a very bad back from lifting heavy objects like the Honda 8hp we've got. Should alleviate the lower back spasms that I get when I lift the Honda up onto the motor bracket. Anyone own / use a motor lifting dammit? $218 at Garhauer. Seems reasonable considering how much pain I get after wrestling with the motor.<img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle>

C25 tall/wing
Classical Cat #5944
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/15/2003 : 02:17:13

Is this the one?

<img src="http://garhauermarine.com/images/product/Hoist-path-2.jpg" border=0>

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 02/15/2003 : 02:27:46

Yah..dat is de vun I got! And now a leetle joke to jeer you up:
(Well...actually four). Certainly you must have heard of these two; Lars the Norvegian and Sven the quite dim Sveed?

Ole and Lars go ice fishin. Ole pulls out his new thermos and Lars says to him, "Ole, whatcha got there?" and Ole says, "Well Lars, dis heres a thermos. It keeps hot things hot, and it keeps cold things cold." After awhile, Lars gets curious and says, "Well Ole, whatcha got in that there thermos?" Ole says, "Well Lars, I got a popsicle, and two cups a cofee."

Ole decides he will go into town to buy some groceries. So off he goes. Within a few minutes, he comes to a river. He looks up and down and across, but cannot see either a bridge or a spot to cross. Just as he is about to give up and go home, his good friend Sven arrives on the other side. Ole calls out and askes how to get to the other side. Sven is surprised by the question. He looks up the river and down, then down at his feet and then across at Ole. Sven responds: "You are on the other side!"

Sven is sitting outside the general store when a stranger approaches. "What's the quickest way to Fargo?" the stranger asks. Sven scratches his head. "Are you walking or driving?" he asks. "I'm driving." . Sven,"That's the quickest way!"

Ole and Lena lived on a lake in Northern Minnesota. It was near the end of winter and spring was just beginning. Ole asked Lena if she would walk across the lake to the General Store to pick him up some tobacco. She asked for some money, but he told her to put it on their tab. So she walked across got the tobacco and walked back. She asked Ole why he didn't send her with any money. He said, "I vasn't goin' to send a dollar ven I vasn't sure how thick the ice vas."

Gary
Classical Cat on the trailer<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

Gary & Susan Norgan
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Classical Cat #5944
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Response Posted - 02/15/2003 : 02:33:55

Too funny! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

Sven and Ole sound very similar to Stan and Ollie, or Bud and Lou!

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/15/2003 : 11:48:01

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
..."I got a popsicle, and two cups a cofee."
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ROFLMAO <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 02/15/2003 : 15:45:37

So I am installing this hoist right now and decided to take a break to see if anyone had a better idea on "placement" of the black knob base plate. Here are my "current" options (I may yet find other ideas to contemplate):
a) on the narrow, flat area on the gunnel just forward of the motor mount location
b) on the starboard side railing area about 12 to 15 inches forward of the right, rear corner of the boat
c) on the cockpit floor next to the motor mount
d) none of the above (I'm just too confused <img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>)
By the time I get back to the computer I most likely will have accomplished something toward one of the above options. I guess I better just go do it....I can always move it someplace else later, right?
gn

Gary & Susan Norgan
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captck
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Response Posted - 02/15/2003 : 18:17:22

Just let air out of tires or back to a little hill then puut motor on.
Or
Dammit is good idea too.
Capt K

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 02/15/2003 : 20:07:59

Here is where I mounted this hoist:
<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dc34b3127cce94d865bdcc690000001610" border=0>
This is what the post looks like mounted on the transom. <img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dc34b3127cce94d865bfcc6b0000001610" border=0>
Here is what the post sits on. I used four #10 by 3/4 inch stainless flathead metal screws because there was no place to get thru-bolts through this part of the hull. Garhauer gives you an extra black mounting (plastic substance) ball in case the first wears out. Good company.

<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dc34b3127cce94d865b1cc650000002611" border=0>
The whole contraption.
<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dc34b3127cce94d865be4d5a0000002611" border=0>
Garhauer uses some pretty hefty blocks for this application. I like this alot <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

Okay, now it is time to launch the boat and go sailing.
I did like the idea of backing the boat up to something but this will enable me to hoist the motor off the ground, off the dock, up and into the boat to get it off the transom for "whatever" and my dear wife says we can load lots of really heavy stuff into the boat now!!!
Project done.

Gary

Gary & Susan Norgan
C25 tall/wing
Classical Cat #5944
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Edited by - gnorgan on 02/16/2003 16:09:02

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/15/2003 : 22:32:45

Nice job, Gary! I'm envious--contemplating getting my 108# Honda back up on the bracket while the fin keel boat is still up on stands. That looks like a good buy at the price.

It looks like it could also be a nice man overboard hoist--maybe even better if you put another base fitting on the other side of the boat.

I looked at Garhauer's site--they don't say anything about capacity... Do you know what it is?

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 02/16/2003 : 02:36:18

The engine hoist for the radar tower is listed at 150 lbs. The LD 6-1 davit has no rating in the catalog but is built a bunch stronger than the radar tower engine hoist setup. So I think it would easily lift your 108 lb. motor. IMO
Gary
I did some lifting with it this evening. It is strong. My Honda 8hp went into the local shop to get a seasonal checkup so is not available for testing purposes. This will save on my back....<img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>

Gary & Susan Norgan
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Classical Cat #5944
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Response Posted - 02/16/2003 : 08:54:32

Next question, Gary... Can it be shortened? (Would you just saw off the bottom?) I'm wondering if that height will put unnecessary leverage on your sternrail... You only need it high enough to lift the motor on or off the bracket--I suspect I'd want to make it 1-1.5' lower. I do like that your installation makes the post very vertical--that should help.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/16/2003 : 10:43:35

"Can it be shortened?...You only need it high enough to lift the motor on or off the bracket..."

If you leave it the original size you might be able to use it for COB(If it can handle the weight).

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 02/16/2003 : 15:56:33

Hey, Don... "COB"? I'm working on it but nothing clicks in my limited gray matter.....yet <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Thanks, Dave, for this heads up. I had thought originally of shortening it right away but I think I will wait to put some weight on the system, as in the Honda. I'm thinking (hard to do sometimes) that I'd like to lift the motor on deck at some times for storage or security or repair?
Maybe I should go out and just hang a big weight (me?) on the hook and see what gives? Nothing beats scientific research for busting up nice things....
I could take the bottom section out but then the piece that supports the arm hits the railing. I shall take this problem into infinite consideration....time permitting, of course.
Thanks for the input.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Gary & Susan Norgan
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Response Posted - 02/16/2003 : 17:12:49

COB or Crew OverBoard is the politically correct version of MOB or Man Overboard. Though in the heat of the moment, I don't believe anyone would hold it against you for yelling, "MAN OVERBOARD!".

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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