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Kper
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Initially Posted - 03/09/2014 : 06:33:57

Let's say, hypothetically, somebody painted the cockpit and deck of a Catalina something other than any shade of white - including the non-skid area of the deck. Is it possible to return this area to it's former color either by sanding/re-gelling and possibly media blasting the non-skid areas? I may be dreaming here, and I don't have any experience in the gel coat repair process. Maybe it's best to sand and paint at this point? Not sure why anyone would do this except to cover repairs or just didn't like white.

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islander
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Response Posted - 03/09/2014 : 07:52:52

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> Maybe it's best to sand and paint at this point?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Maybe its best to run away. The entire top of the boat is painted? With what kind of paint? This can be very labor intensive let alone $$$$$.

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Response Posted - 03/09/2014 : 08:07:23

At this point it's a guess that it's been painted. All I have are photos until (if) I take a look. I'm guessing it's painted because I don't recall any C27's with blue decks. I know, this is a C25 forum but I trust the folks here and I consider the 27 a cousin to the 25.
http://sailingtexas.com/201401/scatalina27247.html

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Kper
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Response Posted - 03/09/2014 : 08:09:18

Upon closer examination maybe the deck is original and the cockpit was painted. I dunno.

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Response Posted - 03/09/2014 : 09:43:16

Many C-25s have 2-tone decks from the factory--most that I've seen have a tan/beige/gray tone on the nonskid, and white around it. I believe some of the older vintages have blue on the nonskid--I think one that was about a '78 that I sailed on had that. I know I've seen it on some older C-22s.

Having said that, I can't explain or even quite understand what I'm seeing in those pix... The blue on the sides of the cockpit, if I'm seeing right, is something I haven't seen on any Catalina. The deck... I'm not sure what's going on there. If it's paint that is partially gone, it might suggest the rest can be removed... Buying a painted fiberglass boat is a bit risky--correspondingly, selling one can be very difficult.

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 03/09/2014 09:47:28

Kper
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Response Posted - 03/09/2014 : 09:53:58

Dave, there is snow partially covering the deck that is giving it that appearance. I do, however, see paint flaking off in the cockpit.
I'm guessing you are correct regarding the colored non-skid.

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Response Posted - 03/09/2014 : 09:55:27

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Kper
 Upon closer examination maybe the deck is original and the cockpit was painted. I dunno.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Either way, the boat is a '74 model blue decks and cockpit, original 1974 mainsail, 13 year old jib, an atomic 4 gasoline engine, and a trailer that needs to be repaired.

Personally, I would not waste my time. There are 1000's of Cat 25's and 27's in the world to chose from.

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Response Posted - 03/09/2014 : 10:20:11

Snow! Right! Time to wash my glasses...

The Atomic 4 is a smooth-running old workhorse--parts and service just about anywhere, even though it's no longer made... But it's a gas engine, which adds some safety issues--it requires a power bilge vent, and scrupulous use of it. My preference, for light-duty coastal sailing, was for a 4-stroke outboard on the transom, rather than an engine mounted inside the hull with various holes and hoses for cooling, exhaust, and propulsion. If I went inboard, it'd be a diesel. YMMV.

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Kper
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Response Posted - 03/09/2014 : 11:16:37

Thank you, Gary.

Dave, I'm not going to get into a sarcastic battle as to whether of not the white stuff piled up on the top of the boat is or isn't snow but thank you for your input on the hazards of utilizing a gas inboard, that's something to think about.

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Response Posted - 03/09/2014 : 12:37:21

The last photo is somewhat of a close up. If you blow it up a bit you can see that it is defiantly paint, And a real bad job. I doubt it was any kind of marine paint. For $4500 I would look elsewhere. Even if you can get all that off ( lots of labor) you don't know whats underneath. You could remove the paint just to find really bad repairs that are really ugly. Again, My suggestion is to run away.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 03/09/2014 : 13:17:55

I'd rather deal with neglect than DPO's mistakes. Remember, we live in the land of overabundance . . . there's plenty to be had out there.

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Response Posted - 03/09/2014 : 13:22:53

Thanks everyone, I do value everyone's opinions here.
I seem to live in the land of overpriced boats and anything that appears fairly priced is a days-plus drive to look at.
Thanks again.

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Response Posted - 03/09/2014 : 13:35:05

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Kper
 Thanks everyone, I do value everyone's opinions here.
I seem to live in the land of overpriced boats and anything that appears fairly priced is a days-plus drive to look at.
Thanks again.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">There are markets where buyers are a captive audience and then there are buyer's markets. Yep, I live in the former and drove a day to find the latter.

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islander
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Response Posted - 03/09/2014 : 14:12:04

I'm guessing that you what something a little bigger? I always thought If I wanted something bigger and stayed with the Catalina's it would be the 30. I've been on the 27 and to me it just wasn't that much bigger.

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Response Posted - 03/09/2014 : 15:25:03

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by islander
 ...I've been on the 27 and to me it just wasn't that much bigger.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Distinctly more headroom, beamier salon, slightly smaller v-berth, and a steadier, stiffer ride in wind and chop. But forget about trailering. And given that, I agree on the C-30 --it's just a great ol' boat!

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Response Posted - 03/13/2014 : 20:34:16

Definitely a blue painted deck, partially covered with snow, in the first pic. The last pic clearly shows that it is snow, and shows blue painted cockpit below the seats. Odds are good that the gelcoat was wearing very thin.

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