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tweeet65
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Initially Posted - 05/12/2014 :  11:26:42  Show Profile
Hey gang, tweeet here. Shopping for a furler for Alacrity (std rig, 77-138). I think I will sell the 110 and 135 that I have and buy a CDI and a furling sail. Any recommendations? I would like to have a 150, thinking I can furl to 135 or smaller but hear of a lot of 135s for furling.
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 05/12/2014 :  11:45:35  Show Profile
I have a furling 150 and would recommend a 135 unless you have predominantly light winds. A 135 is superior to a 150 rolled to 135, where I frequently fly it until mid-summer. By 110, you've got so much belly and a leading edge bundle of sail that I would call it "just usable". That said, the 150 is nice in light air. A furling 150 and 110 would probably be a reasonable combo if you're not a trimming speedfreak and regularly face a wide variation in wind speed. The more you furl, the worse your sail shape. The greater the need to furl, the more you want good sail shape.
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awetmore
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Response Posted - 05/12/2014 :  14:26:29  Show Profile
The CDI furler is inexpensive, but you should understand it's limitations before selecting it. The halyard design makes it difficult to get high luff tension and very difficult to adjust halyard tension on the fly. It also won't roll the sail up as tightly as most furlers since there isn't an indepedent swivel tack. Sail changes are a lot more difficult than on a standard furler.

All of these features may or may not matter to you depending on your sailing style. I personally wouldn't want one.
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Davy J
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Response Posted - 05/12/2014 :  15:41:06  Show Profile
I have been happy with a 135, but I also have an asymmetric spinnaker for light winds.

I will comment on the CDI furler, for me it has been flawless and bulletproof. If you have any intentions of lowering or raising your mast yourself, there really is no better choice.
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 05/12/2014 :  21:09:31  Show Profile
Have you sailed with a 150-155 (on anybody's boat)? The 155 is generally the hank-on version with a lower clew, thus a little more area down low but worse visibility (abysmal for my purposes). Either has almost twice as much sail to drag around the shrouds when tacking, and requires longer sheets than a 130-135. I'm sure there's a performance difference in very light air, but I didn't race and never wished for a bigger foresail than my furling 130, even in western Long Island Sound's July-August doldrums. YMMV.

As for the CDI, I didn't have one (mine was a more "conventional" metal-foil Hood), but I've known more people who have CDIs than I can count (or remember). They seem to do the job for a lot of recreational sailors. The ball-bearing upgrade is recommended by most. Racers want a dual-groove Harken (for a "dual price").
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hewebb
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Response Posted - 05/13/2014 :  03:13:28  Show Profile
I have a 150 on a Harken. When I replace it I will get a 135 and stay with Harken.
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tweeet65
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Response Posted - 05/15/2014 :  12:04:27  Show Profile
I do raise and lower solo. Right now leaning toward the Cat Direct kit with the new forestay included. Thinking also of a new 135 from North. I notice on the Ullman sails at Cat Direct, they talk about a foam luff to improve furling of the middle of the sail. Sounds good, why couldn't North add similar. North a little less expensive than the Ullman.
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Stinkpotter
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 05/15/2014 :  22:06:49  Show Profile
I'd be very surprised if North didn't offer a foam luff option on a furling sail. It helps for reducing by up to maybe 20%--probably not so much beyond that. But that's not to say that you can't roll it down to a handkerchief when you really need to in a blow. Sometimes a few wrinkles aren't an issue.
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