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John J.
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Initially Posted - 03/04/2003 : 05:17:54

I recently bought an 81SK, ( My only sailing knowledge has come from this forum, and I'm making a concerted effort to translate what I read here into something understandable. I can't seem to locate a Sailing -English dictionary ). The boat has been in storage in a barn since '94. I'm assuming I have To-hull, not Thru-hull connections. Does that sound right? If so, is it recommended to change them over. Does the fact the boat has been sitting so long raise any concerns? Is there much difference in the construction over the years? Anything particular about the '81 that I should be aware of? As always........Thanks!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/04/2003 : 08:24:27

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I recently bought an 81SK, ( My only sailing knowledge has come from this forum, and I'm making a concerted effort to translate what I read here into something understandable. I can't seem to locate a Sailing -English dictionary ). The boat has been in storage in a barn since '94. I'm assuming I have To-hull, not Thru-hull connections. Does that sound right? If so, is it recommended to change them over. Does the fact the boat has been sitting so long raise any concerns? Is there much difference in the construction over the years? Anything particular about the '81 that I should be aware of? As always........Thanks!

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For starters - Sailing Dictionary --http://www.waterspirits.com/sailing.html

Your probably correct in your through hull v to hull assumption, however you will need to inspect it to be sure.
A to hull will have a volcano look similar to this picture (used without the permission of Don Lucier)

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It is recommended by many members that you change them over, however, In my opinion, the failure rate is a lot lower than some members make it out to be. If the boat has ever been in salt water, I think they are more compromised than a boat that might have been in fresh water! see the following thread for additional details.
http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2509

You shouldn't have many concerns about a boat out of water for so long. Mine was on the hard outside for about 10 years prior to my getting her. It might be worth your while to get a marine surveyor to take a look at her and offer up some suggestions regarding safety items and other things, even though you have already purchased her.

Nothing about the 81 that I have ever seen.

dw

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
Chief Measurer C-25/250 National Assn.
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RichardG
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Response Posted - 03/04/2003 : 12:09:09

On my '81, I changed the aft to-hull (the sink/icebox drain) to thru-hull because the valve was somewhat difficult to operate and the to-hull looked a little weak (although getting the piece of pipe out was a big chore). The forward to-hull (head intake) still looks and feels strong and the valve works well, so I still have the to-hull up there.

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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Response Posted - 03/04/2003 : 19:46:13

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Response Posted - 03/04/2003 : 19:47:46

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Richard, what's your hull number?

Steve Madsen
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jsummerfield
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Response Posted - 03/04/2003 : 21:41:33

Pull up the deck plans from the Catalina manuals in this site as a terminology reference. The sailing pros are welcome to move on; or edit for corrections but please be gentle.

Uniform terminology is useful for a guest, a novice or an experienced sailor. The Catalina 25 deck plan illustrates the location of many parts on the vessel with the name on a table below.

The hull floats on the water. If you are standing on the boat deck looking forward, the fore (front) point of the boat is the bow and the aft (rear) end of the boat is the stern. The left side of the boat is the port side and the right side is starboard. There should be a red light on the port side and a green light on the starboard side. Now for a few memory tricks; port wine is red; the English words left, port and red each have fewer letters than the opposing right, starboard and green. The tiller handle connects to the stern mounted rudder to permit turning the boat.

The lead keel near the center underneath lines up with the boat. When sailing with the wind from the starboard side the boat is on a starboard tack. With the wind from the port side, the boat is on a port tack. Telltales, pieces of yarn on the sails and shrouds, permit one to see the wind. Everything that the wind passes over can be described with a windward side toward the wind and leeward (looward) side away from the wind. This manual is for a sloop-rigged sailboat with one mast and two sails. A sloop-rigged sailboat has a triangular foresail or headsail that connects at the bottom near the bow and runs up to the mast. Another mainsail runs up the mast on slides and forms a triangle from the top of the mast toward the stern of the boat. Sails are not flat. Additional material in the sail provides shape. Other sailboat variations include more masts and sails, different sail shapes and supporting structures, etc. Also, sloop rigged boats may have optional features such as a roller-furling jib that stores on a parallel stay instead of being stored below deck.

Winches increase the purchase or pulling power needed to raise the halyards or pull the jib sheets. The lifelines around the boat are held in place by the vertical stanchion posts. The bow pulpit is the safety rail forward of the jib, not a brace for playing Titanic with arms spread.

Standing Rigging
If you are standing outside on top of the deck, the mast is the tall vertical structure, although some boats have more than one mast. The shroud cables connected to the mast help to hold it up. Shrouds fasten to the mast using a tang fitting. A forestay connects between the bow of the boat and a high point on the mast. This is where the foresail snap hooks or hanks connect to hold the sail. A backstay connects from the top of the mast to transom at the stern of the boat. The backstay is adjustable to permit bending the mast to change the shape of the sails. There are two sets of shrouds to support the mast. The upper shrouds pass over the horizontal spreaders and fasten to the top of the mast with lower shrouds below the spreaders. Standing rigging includes the rigid shrouds and stays. The shrouds and stays are held to the boat hull by chain plates.

Running Rigging
A forward sail is called the jib, although other headsails exist. The point where the bottom of the jib sail connects to the bow is the sail’s tack. If the foresail is a jib, it is the jib tack. A line called a jib halyard connects between to the top or head of the sail, over the top of the mast and back to the deck to permit raising the sail up to the top of the mast. If the bottom of the jib is not fastened to a horizontal pole, the sail is loose footed. The bottom rear corner of the jib is the clew. Jib sheets are the lines that connect from the clew, through the sheet blocks to winches on each side of the cockpit. When bending the jib to the forestay, the hanks are fastened to the jib luff. The side of the sail between the jib clew and the head of the sail is the jib leech. Similar to the jib, the triangle sail aft of the mast is the mainsail. The tack is connected to the mast at the gooseneck of the boom. Unlike the jib, the foot of the mainsail is fastened to the horizontal boom. The parts of the sail are the same with the luff securely fastened to the mast, the main halyard holding the head of the sail near the top of the mast. The mainsail has battens that fit into pockets to stiffen and shape the sail. The clew of the main is connected to an outhaul line that pulls the clew aft to tighten the foot. The mainsheet is connected from the boom to the traveler at the transom. An adjustable boom vang connects from the bottom of the mast to a point farther aft on the boom. Running rigging includes the jib sheets, mainsheet and related lines. In addition to the mainsail, common foresails include the jib, larger Genoa and largest light-air spinnaker.

John

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/05/2003 : 12:59:50

John,

I see you live in Lawrenceburg, Ind. If you haven't decided where to sail it, I can highly recommend Brookville Lake, just north of you. There are quite a few C-25s there, and a good sailing club with lots of family oriented activities.

Steve Milby "Captiva Wind" C-25 T/FK #2554

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 03/05/2003 : 19:42:39

To Hulls are fine as long as you inspect them once in a while for seepage. If you in an area where it freezes I would change them to through hulls. If it were me I would do it anyway just to get away from the cheap fitting Catalina used. An ounce of prvention is worth a pound of cure.<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2dd04b3127cce9d4cdf9ece570000005610" border=0><img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2dd35b3127cce9ca14dbdfeed0000005610" border=0><img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2dd00b3127cce9d5f16f68cc30000005610" border=0>

Doug&Ruth
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RichardG
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Response Posted - 03/06/2003 : 13:16:42

Steve:

Hull # 2657.

The link to members boats sorted by hull # is http://www.catalina25-250.org/email25.html. Not sure how updated the list is.

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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