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Dragonfly
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Initially Posted - 03/07/2003 : 09:16:52

I noticed on an earlier thread that (Bryan B.?)for singlehanding two winches were placed aft of the cabin - closer to the steering wheel.
I don't have this, yet, but how many of you singlehand your 250 with out these aft placed winches? I want to go out - alone, but wondering if it's not such a good idea without the aft placed winches.
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C-250 WK #641
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Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 03/07/2003 : 09:39:32

Dragonfly,

I single hand sailed the boat for 2 years before I installed the coaming winches. It is just more difficult to control the jib. The winches are not a necessity but a luxury. You can single hand okay with the 2 stock winches and wheel steering. It just takes a little thought of what you are going to do with the jib before you tack.

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 03/07/2003 : 10:57:16

I solo all the time and only have stock winches (self tailing.) Although I don't have a wheel, I still have to let go the helm. But I use a tiller tamer. So I snug the tamer, then switch the traveler over first. Then wrap the leeward jib sheet around the winch. Release the weather jib sheet from the jam pulley thing (but not the barrel of the winch.) Now I'm ready to come about.

Q: what is the name of the pulley at the top of the self-tailing winch? I know the metal part that sticks out is the 'stipper'.

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 03/07/2003 : 11:21:40

My husband single hands our C250 w/ a wheel. He sits in front of the wheel & steers so he has better access to the jib lines.

Cathy
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andy
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Response Posted - 03/07/2003 : 11:57:53

Dragonfly,
I single hand with the stock winch location, but have a tiller and lewmar 16 self tailers. It's really no problem and its possible even in heavy gusts. I agree with Bryan, I plan exactly what I'm going to do right before I tack...this is a must if its really blowing. I find it fun and a challenge to to it well. I rope the tiller afrer tacking. With a wheel, it must be held solid after you tack when you let go to trim the jib otherwise you'll round up...embarassing!

Andy Anderson
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 03/07/2003 : 13:58:09

If single handing is the primary use of a c250 and it has a 110 jib, then a great way to go is to replace the cams near the winches for those with standard winches with swivel cams. For those with self tailing, the swivel cam would be mounted on the strip next to the hatch.

The cam will directly hold the sheets in all but heavy weather. These allow the sheets to be handed from wherever in the cockpit. I single handed a great deal prior to adding the coaming winches and they worked relatively well and very easy if the jib is hauled tight as the boat tacks thru.

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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Dragonfly
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Response Posted - 03/07/2003 : 14:27:19

Thanks to all- for the help - I'm gonna be solo this weekend!!!
I wil first make the appropriate slip bumper cushion arrangements - the hardest part of soloing may be returning to the slip -unscathed.

C-250 WK #641
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/07/2003 : 19:05:01

"...the hardest part of soloing may be returning to the slip unscathed.

"Always approach a dock at the speed in which you wish to hit it!"

and,

"Never approach a dock faster than your bank account will allow."

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