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nate
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Initially Posted - 03/09/2003 : 09:29:33

I have a pair of waterproof 4" Poly Planar flush-mount speakers I'd like to mount in the cockpit. I think the best place for them would be just aft of the combing boxes. Anyone have a better place or ideas why NOT to mount them there? Thanks!

Nate Adams
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/09/2003 : 10:58:51

Nate,

The only thing I can think of and I don't know if it means anything, is that if you have an autopilot, its' compass will be somewhat close to the speakers magnet.

I don't have any speakers mounted in the cockpit and I don't know if it would work, but I thought a good place would be in the vicinity of the traveller/gudgeon bolts. This would give you access to those areas without using access plates.

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 03/09/2003 : 14:28:40

Nate,

I don't yet have cockpit speakers, but I've thought about them. I would look into mounting them in the forward ends of the coaming boxes. That way, the speakers would be more or less out of the weather, there would be no speaker-sized holes in the visible walls of the cockpit, and if you ever did install a tiller pilot, the closest speaker would be somewhat further forward of it. On the down side, this would put one speaker closer to the bulkhead steering compass. I seem to remember reading somewhere that speaker magnets needed to be at least three feet from all compasses, but even that seems close to me. I think there may be such a thing as magnetically shielded speakers, but don't hold me to that. I look forward to reading what others have to say on the matter.

-- Leon Sisson

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RoofRoof
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Response Posted - 03/09/2003 : 18:43:04

I mounted similar size speakers on my Cat 25. On the starboard side of the bulkhead of the cockpit there was a speed instrument. It was broken when I bought the boat, and nowadays we have GPS for speed. So, I removed it and mounted one speaker there. The other was mounted behind your knee when sitting on the port side cockpit. It is very close to the manual bilge pump.

I like this arrangement as it give sound going back and to the side. It actually gives a nice stereo separation no matter where you are sitting or standing. Also, if both were mounted on either side of the companion way, the sound is sometimes too loud if you are right in front of the speaker, but not loud enough in other locations. The way I have them, I adjust the balance more to the one down low, and it sounds great. Not to mention I needed to cover the hole where the speed instrument was anyway.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/10/2003 : 11:34:44

Couple of things about cockpit speakers -

1 - mount them where they won't get Kicked
2 - mount them where they won't get kicked
3 - When all else fails, try and mount them where you won't be able to kick them accidently.

We mounted ours in the cockpit, see attached -

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You should be able to see the speaker right above my left hand. Or, in photo 2 - right by the tiller

Another note - If you haven't bought your speakers already look for ones that you can buy replaceable covers. Secondly, the white speakers stay white for about 1 year, then they yellow with age. The black set you see in the picture are 3 years old...

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/10/2003 : 12:36:57

Duane,

Is that two shore power inlets I see mounted on the port coaming?

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/10/2003 : 13:24:27

Yeah, so when we run our clandestine substance operation we can use more power for the flourescent lights...

No - the PDO had a phone line wired in.

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/10/2003 : 18:18:28

What?...No cable TV? <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Richard Tripp
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Response Posted - 03/10/2003 : 22:25:56

Nate, ours are mounted about in the same location as The Flying Wasp. Take a walk by & have a look. We don't have an auto pilot though. See you in a week or two. dick t.

Dick & Coye Tripp
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Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 03/10/2003 : 23:50:27

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> What?...No cable TV?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

We have DirecTV are our dock and the boat is wired with one cable location.

It does not cost a lot. We have it charged to our home DirecTV account. We designated it as and RV they charge us $4.99 per month.

Bryan Beamer
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/11/2003 : 08:05:25

One other note, we have a set in the bulkhead for cabin listening too, along with a remote for cockpit operation under sail. (see the black rectangle next to the speaker in the picture above.

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Todd Frye
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Response Posted - 03/11/2003 : 13:33:49

I took a boom box with removeable speakers on board and tried them in different locations. While down below, with the speakers facing forward, one above the ice box, the other in the starboard quarter berth, the sound filled the space very well, and even sounded good while out in the cockpit. Some of the books I read discussed the space sound is projected into and how important "reflection" is. This seemed to hold true as the sound bouncing off the salon bulkhead was clear and full as it projected back out through the companionway. I will also probably be using my system more when I'm below decks than while underway. But ofcourse, bottom line is what sounds good to you is the final word. Another factor in my decision making was I really didn't want to cut holes in the boat. Good luck. Todd Frye

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jandrus
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Response Posted - 03/12/2003 : 10:33:15

If you're going to mount speakers without enclosures I strongly recommend buying foam mounting cups. They sit in the cutout and the speaker mounts into them - see crutchfield.com for example. They're really designed for mounting speakers into car doors without turning the inside of the door into an enclosure but will do a lot to reinforce the sound, especially in the mid-bass.

Justin

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