Association Forum - Furling Line width

Assn Members Area · Join

Home.

Association Forum

Ships Store

Cruising

Racing

Technical Tips

Photo Gallery - New

Boat Search - Updated

Manuals & Brochures

Swap Meet

Links

Officer Flag Line & Staff

Bylaws & Constitution

Members Area

Join the Association

Notice:
The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.

Association Forum

Username:	Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

All Forums

Catalina/Capri 25/250 Sailor's Forums

Catalina 250 Specific Forum

Furling Line width

New Topic

Topic Locked

Printer Friendly

Author

Topic

sailgal
Captain

Member Avatar

USA
400 Posts

Initially Posted - 03/20/2003 : 13:31:34

I noticed in a picture Arlyn had posted that his jib furler line is larger in diameter than my CDI furler line. Is this a after market mod, and is it beneficial in furling compared to the smaller line, and I also took note of his cam cleat for the furl line. Does this too aid in furling, and is it worth installing?<img src="http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/jibsheets.jpg" border=0><img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dd01b3127cce95224992f2db0000001610" border=0>

Suzie
Tropical Sleigh WB#619
Sarasota FL.

Edited by - on

Bryan Beamer
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1038 Posts

Response Posted - 03/20/2003 : 14:24:26

My furling line is 3/16. It is good idea to make sure the line is in good shape. 3/16 should be strong enough.

A c34 was sailing in wind 30 knots plus about a month ago are our lake. He had the jib furled out to about 90%. The furling line broke and the jib furled out all the way to 150%. They had to manually take down the jib in that wind. They could not sail with the full jib without being way over powered. The 150 % was about 14 years and was torn apart by the wind. I heard from the owner the replacement sail was about $3000.00. All of this because the $50.00 dollar furling line was old and broke under load.

I also have installed a cam cleat for the furl line. It works very well, well worth the $20.00 I paid for the cam cleat. I did not install mine as far back as Arlyn’s. I wish I had installed it further back. Mine is next to the original horn cleat.

These are the best pictures that I have of the furling line cleat.

<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3df04b3127cce9451c47b21e20000003610" border=0>

<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3df04b3127cce9451c75fe06f0000001610" border=0>

Bryan Beamer
<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dc23b3127cce9462f2858f2b0000001010" border=0>
Daylight Again
C250wk #495

Edited by - on

Arlyn Stewart
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
2980 Posts

Response Posted - 03/20/2003 : 17:05:14

The right line in the swivel cam cleat is not the furling line. It is the Twing line and made up from a piece of old halyard.

The boat is on the trailer in the pic and hence why no furling line is shown. I ran those lines to show Bryan how I routed the jib sheet to the coaming winch.

If wanting to know what a twing is...

http://www.cox-internet.com/arlynstewart/c250mods/extenders.html

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
<img src="http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/rr.jpg" border=0>
N/E Texas and Great Lakes

[url="http://www.cox-internet.com/arlynstewart/"]Arlyn's C250 Mods n Cruisin Stories[/url]

Edited by - on

Arlyn Stewart
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
2980 Posts

Response Posted - 03/20/2003 : 17:16:28

Susie,

I see your boat has anchor fairleads/chocks on both sides... I will call Catalina and see if I can get a port side one. Again...ealier models did not have them on both sides.

After just calling... they didn't find it in the parts inventory but pledged to check on it and call back.

You didn't by any chance add the port fairlead yourself? The other thing said was that adding one to the port would likely incur backing up somehow as he thought that the backup for the chock was molded in. Has any one added a port anchor rode chock /fairlead?

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
<img src="http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/rr.jpg" border=0>
N/E Texas and Great Lakes

[url="http://www.cox-internet.com/arlynstewart/"]Arlyn's C250 Mods n Cruisin Stories[/url]

Edited by - arlyn stewart on 03/20/2003 17:37:29

Edited by - on

Bryan Beamer
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1038 Posts

Response Posted - 03/20/2003 : 18:51:57

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> I see your boat has anchor fairleads/chocks on both sides<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

Arlyn,

My 2000 only has one and it is on the port side.

Bryan Beamer
<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dc23b3127cce9462f2858f2b0000001010" border=0>
Daylight Again
C250wk #495

Edited by - on

Arlyn Stewart
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
2980 Posts

Response Posted - 03/20/2003 : 20:12:01

Thanks for the report Bryan...that surprises me. It appears that they may have put on what they had available...

There are many times when I use two anchors and having a chock on both sides as Suzie's boat would be great.

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
<img src="http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/rr.jpg" border=0>
N/E Texas and Great Lakes

[url="http://www.cox-internet.com/arlynstewart/"]Arlyn's C250 Mods n Cruisin Stories[/url]

Edited by - on

Tom Coleman
Deckhand

Members Avatar

USA
19 Posts

Response Posted - 03/23/2003 : 12:45:36

Suzie;

The CDI on my 2001 came with very light line that looked like parachute cord. It was very tough on the hands because of its small diameter, and of questionable strength. I also changed to 3/16" line and added a cam cleat. Both have been simple, yet worthwhile additions.

Edited by - on

lcharlot
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Antigua and Barbuda
1301 Posts

Response Posted - 03/23/2003 : 17:18:35

The recommended furling line for the CDI FF4 furler is 1/4" double braid polyester. The 3/16" line is adequate in light conditions, but is very hard on your hands when trying to furl a big 150% genoa in a stiff breeze. I have actually snapped a 3/16" furling line when trying to winch it in. It was a year old but looked in still good condition. Maybe the UV resistance of that manufacturing run of that batch of line was not up to snuff and it was weakened, but I would still be more trusting of the 1/4" size.

Larry Charlot
Catalina 25 #1205 "Quiet Time"
Sacramento, CA

Edited by - on

jfesi
Navigator

Members Avatar

USA
101 Posts

Response Posted - 03/28/2003 : 21:01:17

Arlyn, Bryan,

My Cat 250 WK came through with only one fairlead. I installed a second on the port side. It was a tight fit, and hard on the fingers. While adding the second fairlead, I also replaced the original one on the starboard side with the next bigger size. My marina requires 5/8" minimum size mooring pennants. The original fairlead was too small to handle the wet 5/8" line. The "backing plate" for the original fairlead was two stainless washers. I used the next larger size, and they just barely fit. Sorry, but it was so long ago that I can't recall the washer size.

Alan Therrien
"Moonpenny"
C250WK #418

Edited by - on

Arlyn Stewart
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
2980 Posts

Response Posted - 03/29/2003 : 00:30:20

Alan...where did you buy the port side anchor fairlead?

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
<img src="http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/rr.jpg" border=0>
N/E Texas and Great Lakes

[url="http://www.cox-internet.com/arlynstewart/"]Arlyn's C250 Mods n Cruisin Stories[/url]

Edited by - on

jfesi
Navigator

Members Avatar

USA
101 Posts

Response Posted - 03/30/2003 : 11:39:16

Arlyn,

I think I got my fairleads and chocks mixed up. I replaced the existing starboard bow chock and also installed a second port side bow chock. They both accommodate 5/8" mooring pennants with chafe gear. Both are backed by stainless steel washers. I bought the new chocks at West Marine (if i recall correctly) about three years ago. Suncor brand - maybe. It was a really tight fit under the deck. The access hole in the bow provided barely enough room for small hands. My wife helped hold the nut and washer in place - as her hands are smaller.

Alan T.
"Moonpenny" C250WK #418

Edited by - on

Topic

New Topic

Topic Locked

Printer Friendly

Jump To:

Association Forum

Notice: The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.