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LeighMarie
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Initially Posted - 03/22/2003 :  12:13:52  Show Profile
On my 1985 SW/SR traditional interior C25 I have teak rails that are on both the port and starboard sides of the boat that are on the edge of that little shelf. (Sorry about the explanantion, but I don't know what the formal name of that ledge is.) Anyway, the teak rail is not very tall and has only a little lip. In order to make those shelves more functional, and I think to actually look better, I am thinking of replacing them with the taller rail (here I go again, not knowing the lingo) that has spindles between the bottom and top pieces. It is a decorative railing.

After all of that, my question is: Have any of you replaced this. How is my original one attached? It almost looks like it is glued on? Is that possible? Do I just pry it off? It just seems like the interior would look a little dressier with this new rail.

Dave & Sharon on "Leigh-Marie"
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Response Posted - 03/22/2003 :  13:02:14  Show Profile
Dave/Sharon,

The piece I believe you refer to is held with screws behind teak plugs. To remove, drill out the center of the plugs and dig out remainder with a sharp, narrow tool. The holes will probably be visible above the cushions, but you can fill those with the SS screws and finishing washers as are used in the rest of the interior.

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 03/23/2003 :  12:19:12  Show Profile
Hi David & Sharon,

The older boats came with the teak rails that have the "spindles" ... some people think they look "dated," but I kinda' like the way they look. Mine are simply screwed on with SS screws and finishing washers ... there are no plugs/bungs to drill through.

Since you are trying to get better use out of the shelves, I'll pass on an idea that I think I got from our "Tech Tips" ... I looked and looked, but I couldn't find it. Anyway, another C-25 owner cut a long piece of teak plywood to fit on top of the shelf, but he cut it wider than the current shelf ... then he attached the teak rail to that. The end result was a shelf that was more useful because it was a lot wider ... it protruded out from the old shelf, covering the top of the settee cushions.

'Hope that makes sense. Obviously, you could use another material for the shelf if you don't want to buy teak.

Good luck ... keep us posted on your progress!

Buzz Maring
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 03/23/2003 :  13:51:19  Show Profile
Those spindled rails are called "Pinrails"

You can buy them from a variety of sources... cabinet shops and woodworking suppliers, West Marine, & etc.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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LeighMarie
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Response Posted - 03/23/2003 :  19:46:12  Show Profile
I looked closer at mine and I see that there are bungs that obviously have filled holes over the screws. Then, ClamBeach, I found out the spindles that I am looking for are called Pinrails, just as you said. I saw on some picture somewhere that a person with a C25 made some drawers or something on the fore end of the shelves to organize things.

I also am drawing plans to make a cabinet enclosure to go where our stove was. We don't use the stove and I had a microwave in there last year that we never used. So, I'm going to build a cabinet to go in there for more storage for pots and pans, etc. (We use a propane campstove for cooking, although we do that only rarely - and we do it outside to not run into propane issues.) I am finding out that teak is expensive! Any other things that could be used? How about Starboard? I know people use those for a backing for motor mounts, but I don't know about for cabinet types of use?

Buzz, regarding the suggestion you mentioned, when one sits on the settees wouldn't your back hit that shelf that would be sticking out? Or is it not sticking out that far? It may be a good idea, though.

Dave & Sharon on "Leigh-Marie"
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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 03/23/2003 :  23:07:22  Show Profile
<font color=blue>Buzz, regarding the suggestion you mentioned, when one sits on the settees wouldn't your back hit that shelf that would be sticking out? Or is it not sticking out that far? It may be a good idea, though.

Dave & Sharon on "Leigh-Marie"
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I wish I could find the Tech Tip ... I seem to remember there was a photo of the modified shelf, and it looked pretty good. I suppose it might hit your back ... if so, it would be a tradeoff between having a useful shelf and the comfort of the seat ... I just don't know.

<font color=blue> I am finding out that teak is expensive! </font id=blue>

I feel your pain. For what it's worth, eBay can be a good place to buy teak ... but you have to be patient. If you like to improvise, there are lots of teak tables, chests, etc. that come up for bid ... you can cannibalize them to make all sorts of stuff.

Good luck ... I'll look again for that Tech Tip ...

Buzz Maring
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 03/24/2003 :  10:01:56  Show Profile
Pure IMHO stuff here.

For interior work, Mahogany makes a nice alternative to teak.
It is 1/4 the cost, easier to work, and is usually available in a much wider range of dimensions.

With the proper choice of finish, it can blend in nicely with existing woodwork. Of course, you probably won't win any prizes in the next boat show you enter...

Most areas will have one or more lumber yards that cater to cabinet makers and woodworkers... unfortunately, no matter where you look, good teak is very expensive.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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