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Bryan Beamer
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Initially Posted - 03/24/2003 : 10:54:40

Finally, after 4 weeks we got to use the new drifter this weekend.
Could only take a picture from the cockpit.

<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dd05b3127cce95c456d711480000001610" border=0>

And laying on the foredeck

<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dd05b3127cce95c456e890470000001610" border=0>

Bryan Beamer
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cathluk
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Response Posted - 03/24/2003 : 11:14:04

Pretty!<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

Cathy
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MattL
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Response Posted - 03/24/2003 : 18:21:44

Way Cool<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>I want one<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
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ronrryan
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Response Posted - 03/24/2003 : 20:43:30

I was sailing just the other day with a friend who has an island packet 31 and set a new (to him) cruising spinnaker. He is a pretty spry almost-seventy-guy amd I am a seventy-plus not-spry guy. We enjoyed the sail once set, but neither of us had raced ever, although cruised plenty (means raced everybody alongside)and the setting was what in the Navy we used to call, a Chinese fire drill, now to be sure called something more politically correct, maybe Oriental friends reconfiguration. There was a guy on the site that had a blooper recut into a drifter. I had a drifter years ago that was pretty easy to use, worked fine, but then so did I at the time, I think drifters give almost all the benefit of spinnakers without any pain that I remember, but then who remembers.......God bless, ron SRSK #2343 Orion SW FL

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 03/24/2003 : 21:11:24

Looking Good!!!

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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Response Posted - 03/24/2003 : 22:22:08

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>a blooper recut into a drifter <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Ron:

What's a "blooper"?

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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ssteakley
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Response Posted - 03/24/2003 : 22:58:18

Bryan,
Super...
but :
1. How Much?
2. Where did you get it?
3. How do you rig it?
Steve Steakley

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 03/24/2003 : 23:56:04

Very nice.
I'm waiting to hear when mine comes in. Hopefully it is before we leave for the Bimini Is.

Safe voyages,
Ben, FL s/v Chick-a-pea C250wk
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 03/25/2003 : 00:51:50

Ullman Sails, Ventura, Ca. Think they have a web site.

I heard that the current price was $700 but they didn't know if that included the blocks and mounts that Ullman will supply. Mine was $600 several years ago + blocks and mounts.

http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/drifter.html

<img src="http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/P0000098.JPG" border=0>

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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[url="http://www.cox-internet.com/arlynstewart/"]Arlyn's C250 Mods n Cruisin Stories[/url]

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Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 03/25/2003 : 03:27:18

Steve,

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> 1. How Much?
2. Where did you get it?
3. How do you rig it?
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

I bought it from Gary Clarke (he had it listed on the Forum’s swap meet) after he sold his boat. He sold it to me for $500.00. He said he bought it new late in 2002. I don’t know how much he paid for it.

As Arlyn stated it is a155% Ullman reacher.

I asked Arlyn for help since he was the only c250 person I new that had one. He has some good pictures on how to rig it on his web site. Here is the link to the questions I asked him.

http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3064

It is helpful to have the coaming winches, but I don’t think it is necessary. With an extra block you could use the stock winches on the cabin top.

Bryan Beamer
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Daylight Again
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/25/2003 : 11:15:39

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>a blooper recut into a drifter <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Ron:

What's a "blooper"?

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>
A blooper is a second downwind sail that is usually rigged with a spinaker. It was a trend that went the way of the dinosaur. They are difficult to keep full unless you are sailing way down on the downwind leg. According to Bob Perry about 25 years ago <BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>"...sailmakers had us all convinced we needed to fly a blooper to gain that extra downwind speed. The only effective way of keeping a blooper filled was to sail the boat low, with the apparent aft of 160 degrees. Sailing low and at hull speed, the IOR boat was perched on its volume-challenged ends. The result was a boat that could round up or down at a moment’s notice. Kind of like riding a football"<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Here is a pic of a boat flying a spinaker and a blooper

<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dd04b3127cce95ce5f7e88630000001010" border=0>

hope this helps....

dw

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
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RichardG
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Response Posted - 03/25/2003 : 14:02:57

Thanks, Duane.

Maybe Minney's has one gathering dust that could be had for cheap, and then re-cut into a drifter.

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/25/2003 : 16:02:42

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Thanks, Duane.

Maybe Minney's has one gathering dust that could be had for cheap, and then re-cut into a drifter.

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

In a lot of instances, your going to end up spending more than half the amount of a new genaker/drifter if you were to purchase, cut down and resize a used sail. And, because of the depth added to these sails, you never really can chop one down and make it as effective as when it was original. (trust me we've tried)

You'd be better off trying to find a used one that fits. You could go with anything from around 28.5 to 30 feet on the hoist.(luff) Miney's has a number of these in stock, just make sure that its an asymetrical spinaker.
you might also want to check out

www.cruisingdirect.com
http://www.thesailwarehouse.com/

dw

note: I am not affiliated with either of these lofts.

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
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