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frich
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Initially Posted - 03/30/2003 :  09:35:05  Show Profile  Visit frich's Homepage
As anyone come up with a method to insure the cable/ winch is installed plumb from the winch to the keel.

I read the article using a dowel, but I know my boat is not sitting level while on the hard.

Can I simply site down the tube prior to installing the turning ball?


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Frank Rich
84 C25 SK
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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 03/30/2003 :  11:03:09  Show Profile
Hi Frank,

It seems to me that, (1) if you have the winch installed directly above the hole for the cable, and (2) you have the cable winding the proper direction on the winch drum, there isn't much else you can do ... the 1500 lb keel is going to pull the cable straight down toward Mother Earth.

Once the cable is in the groove of the turning ball, it stays there. The purpose of the turning ball is to keep the cable from slicing the boat in half as the keel travels up and down. As the keel is lowered, the cable is no longer just pointing straight down ... the end attached to the keel is pulled forward ... the turning ball takes the punishment instead of the fiberglass.

'Hope that makes sense. I don't think you've got anything to worry about, but it will be interesting to see if anyone else weighs in with another theory.

Good luck!

Buzz Maring
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Loren H.
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Response Posted - 03/31/2003 :  14:58:30  Show Profile
Frank,

Just replaced my entire "cranking" system. The new winch supplied by CD did not line up with the existing mounting points from the old winch. I drilled new holes on the mounting plate to match the existing holes in the top step and hoped the drum/cable would line up correctly when installed.

It looked close from the winch but I slid the hose up and checked the cable at the turning ball just in case and all seemed well. As Buzz said, the turning ball seems to correct any misalignments even though they may be slight. I have trouble believing the original system was lined up to perfection any way.

Loren

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frich
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Response Posted - 03/31/2003 :  19:39:41  Show Profile  Visit frich's Homepage
Thanks Guys, I will do the install this weekend, providing we get no more snow on LI<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>
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rwall10597
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Response Posted - 04/17/2003 :  19:02:43  Show Profile
We had to replace the winch and cable on our 1977 '22 that we had years ago. I assure you no thought went into it. We had the boat a few years after that and it never gave us a lick of trouble.

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markolito
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Response Posted - 04/18/2003 :  11:29:22  Show Profile
nayone have pics of the REMOVAL of the tube and turning ball? I understand exactly how it's supposed to work but seeing it fist hand would help alot!

thanks
-marco

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 04/18/2003 :  14:42:57  Show Profile
Hi Marco,

I don't know if this will help or not ... I don't have photos of the removal, but I do have this photo of the turning ball and shaft after I took them out:

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As you can see, the shaft isn't threaded ... it is simply held in place by the rubber tube. As I've mentioned before, the ends of the shaft were covered with fiberglass ... I had to grind off the fiberglass before I could punch out the shaft.

'Hope that helps some ... good luck!

Buzz Maring
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