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ssteakley
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Initially Posted - 03/31/2003 :  21:04:09  Show Profile
I have a standard Horizon Speed transducer and meter. I am trying to calibrate the speed meter. I used a hand held GPS to get it close, but I am wondering which unit would read faster? The GPS or the Transducer/Meter?. The instructions say to use a GPS or have another boat run along side to determine the correct setting (assuming their speed meter is correctly calibrated).
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Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 03/31/2003 :  23:48:19  Show Profile
I also use a hand held GPS to calibrate my Standard Horizon Knot meter 2 or 3 times a year. I don't know enough about a GPS but I do see the GPS change speeds while sailing more than the knot meter.

I usually do my calibration while motoring on calm waters. That way I can keep a consistent speed for a longer period of time.


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I also use a hand held GPS to calibrate my Standard Horizon Knot meter 2 or 3 times a year. I don't know enough about a GPS but I do see the GPS change speeds while sailing more than the knot meter.
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<font size=2><font face='Comic Sans MS'>Only in perfectly calm waters with NO current should your GPS and knot meter read the same thing. Which means there are ony two times a day you can calibrate your knot meter with the GPS. It’s better to find a measured mile between marks to set the knot meter. Most large harbors have one. You can use the difference between your knot meter and GPS to calculate whether you have a favorable current or not. In racing use your knot meter to set your sail trim use the GPS to help decide which side of the course is favored.

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Response Posted - 04/01/2003 :  08:00:30  Show Profile
Another way to check, if you know the exact distance between your bow pulpit and any point near the helm, is to have someone on the bow holler when a buoy or daymark passes close aboard and time it until it passes your stern mark. Once you know your speed in ft/sec it's easy to calculate your speed in knots or mph.


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Response Posted - 04/01/2003 :  11:26:06  Show Profile
For what it's worth, as an hard core racer I keep my knotmeter reading as high as possible (we call it the "clickmeter" and we've had it read 12.4 knots...) The reasoning is that I'm not really interested whether I'm going 4.5 or 5.5 knots - what I need to know is, when we retrim the genoa or the main, does our speed go up or down. With it at a "wide open" setting it becomes a much more sensitive instrument. Now, if you're a cruiser going from A to B on the coast, the knotmeter should be accurate - it makes dead reckoning much easier! On the lake I know where I am just by looking around <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 04/01/2003 :  15:28:36  Show Profile
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Only in perfectly calm waters with NO current should your GPS and knot meter read the same thing. Which means there are ony two times a day you can calibrate your knot meter with the GPS. It’s better to find a measured mile between marks to set the knot meter. Most large harbors have one. You can use the difference between your knot meter and GPS to calculate whether you have a favorable current or not. In racing use your knot meter to set your sail trim use the GPS to help decide which side of the course is favored.
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The lake we sail in is only 11 miles long there aren't any mile markers, and there isn't any current. (except the waves from the stink potters)

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