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Alan Therrien
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Initially Posted - 11/25/2001 : 18:08:47

My last sail this season was in 25 knt winds with gusts up to 30 knts. The trip out to the ocean was quick and uneventful. I was double reefed, and had a few wraps taken in on the furler.

The return trip was another story. The wind shifted before

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Steve Raffel
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Response Posted - 11/26/2001 : 11:25:45

It sounds to me like you did the right thing. I would have started the motor. If you were over 30 degrees, more sail was not the answer.

Steve Raffel
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tinob
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Response Posted - 11/26/2001 : 15:01:43

Alan,

I agree with Steve you needed more push, adding the motor to the sail plan would have helped.
Val

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Alan Therrien
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Response Posted - 11/26/2001 : 17:33:41

Thanks for the confirmation. I did use the Evinrude 9.9 on some of the port tacks. The prop was completely out of the water on the starboard tack. And the motor alone was not enough to make forward progress. Sometimes I guess you just have to do it th

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 11/26/2001 : 22:05:48

Havent been out on a C250 but I did experiance the same conditions in my C25. Down to a double reefed main and motor no head sail.

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 11/27/2001 : 08:45:49

The double reef was definitely the right call! I might have pulled more of the jib in if the angle of heel was too extreme - you'd be surprised what a difference that makes!

Which brings up another question - when the boat is heeling excessively whe

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 11/27/2001 : 11:46:27

I agree with the other folk's suggestions, but beating to windward in high winds and choppy seas is very uncomfortable and hard on the boat. Reaching or running is much easier on both boat and crew.

Sometimes people are so determined to follow their i

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MarkTM
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Response Posted - 11/27/2001 : 12:38:13

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Which brings up another question - when the boat is heeling excessively where do you brace if you are too short to reach the opposite bench w

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 11/27/2001 : 14:47:55

<h4>Alan, my additions would be fall off a bit prior to making a tack to gain more speed to carry the tack thru and then make a smart turn.

Also, in a breeze the forestay needs to be tight if running headsail to avoid pocketing

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 11/28/2001 : 08:14:03

Mark -

I should have been more clear in my question. Yes, when at the helm I brace myself quite nicely with the pedstel, also tend to be on the seats and not sitting on the rail. My questions was more for when my husband refuses to relinquish the hel

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MarkTM
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Response Posted - 11/28/2001 : 09:21:26

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My questions was more for when my husband refuses to relinquish the helm after pulling out of the slip ('cause he knows he won't usually get

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Alan Therrien
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Response Posted - 11/30/2001 : 09:46:05

I was standing behind the wheel with my feet spread VERY far apart. My wife was initially sitting in the companionway, but as the wind picked up she had all 5'3" braced against the leeward side of the boat - not a comfortable position.
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Alan Therrien
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Response Posted - 11/30/2001 : 10:06:38

Thanks to all for your valued advice. I think a bit more twist with less headsail and more motor would have made a big difference.

My Evinrude is an extra long shaft, but still wouldn't stay in the water on the starboard tack. I had considered anot

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 12/01/2001 : 22:11:55

In response to Steve Milby I like to mention Sail Magazine had an article "Last Call Before the Bar Closes" (or something like that).

The article mentions a lot of the stuff covered here about making a pass in hard weather. It was last months issue or

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