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77Gypsy
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Initially Posted - 04/22/2003 : 10:24:07

i see that a lot, it's then followed by a number, what does that mean?

Steven de Filippis
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John G-
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Response Posted - 04/22/2003 : 11:09:32

Steven,
You might want to read this page from the U.S. Sailing Assoc. on the various[url="http://www.ussailing.org/offshore/hcapsys.htm"] handicap systems.[/url]
Basically PHRF is one way to handicap different boats so they can race together.
From the article; “The largest handicap fleets in the United States now sail under the Performance Handicap Racing Fleet (PHRF) system.”

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/22/2003 : 13:40:28

Performace Handicap Racing Fleet

You can also check out this link....

www.phrf-le.org

It is a time/distance handicap that attempts to level the playing field. A boat with a 228 rating would get 8 seconds per mile over a boat with a 220 rating. The ratings are regionally adjusted based on normal racing conditions and fleet performance over the years.

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Response Posted - 04/22/2003 : 17:57:29

PHRF is usually used for distance racing as opposed to triangle racing. It works better on a long race. Portsmouth ratings are usually used around the buoys.

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Response Posted - 04/23/2003 : 02:26:50

Triley: I am sorry, but I don't understand your post. I am on the West Coast, but out here PHRF is used for everything, including round the bouys. "Long Distance" can mean either a long beat or a long run or reach. Seems to me like some boats are remarkably faster one way or the other and, hence, would have an amazing advantage.

Example: I owned and raced a Tartan 30 in a couple of 100 mile ocean races off the Oregon coast. That boat rated 180 PHRF at the time. She could run and reach like crazy. I won those races, not because I was an especially good sailor, but because I pointed her downwind and got out of the way! The handicap she had made her really hard to beat. I am not sure that I would have had the same success in round the bouy stuff, or even in a 100 mile upwind race.....Does this make sense?

Maybe you could put me on to Portsmouth ratings; we simply don't use them out here, to my knowledge.

Gary B.
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Response Posted - 04/23/2003 : 08:33:46

Portsmouth ratings are rare around here too. Beside that, if you race in a PHRF Fleet, you use a PHRF Rating regardless. That is why most regattas run a windward leeward on one day, and an olympic triangle on another. It evens out the advantages over time.

Has anyone had any experience with the Americap Rating System?

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Response Posted - 04/23/2003 : 12:02:30

On Canyon Lake the keelboats use PHRF, whether racing "around-the-buoys" or in our long distance races (up to 19 miles) and the multihulls use Portsmouth.
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Response Posted - 04/23/2003 : 12:09:40

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and the multihulls use Portsmouth.
Derek

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That is what I had thought, D, but I wasn't sure. Portsmouth is a Multi-Hull rating in most instances

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