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karentc
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Initially Posted - 04/29/2003 :  13:06:24  Show Profile
Hi!
I'm replacing my old motor with a new Honda 9.9 extra long shaft with as many bells and whistles as I can get. I would like to get the "remote control" on-board engine control system but they don't offer this with a steering handle- you either get a throttle handle or remote control and they don't offer a kit to add the remote control to the throttle handle model(which is what I had with my old johnson 9.9), nor do they offer a steering attachment to add to the remote control model. I need to steer my motor to get in and out of the dock (believe me I have tried a gazillion other ways steering with the tiller and it is just too tight (or I am too green.) Does anyone know of an aftermarket steering attachment that I can attach to the motor to manually steer it to get in and out of the dock??? Help!!! Also, any information on options to get or avoid would be greatly appreciated. I am planning on the electric start and powerthrust prop as well as the extended "25 inch" shaft, as my Johnson extended shaft was ALWAYS bouncing out of the water. Thanks!!!

Karen Christensen
Moondance '86 C-25



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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 04/29/2003 :  13:23:14  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Karen.... I'm not sure if the geometry will work on the C25 as it does for the c250... but I've been using a soft link system for steering the outboard during docking that I've used the past seven years... It works great, is simple and cheap.

It uses a short line between the aft edge of rudder and the aft of motor... and a bungee between aft of motor and port quarter. The piece of line has a snap hook that makes to an eye strap on the rudder so that it can be easily hooked and unhooked during times when motor steering is wanted.

Again...I don't know if the geometry will work on a motor mounted to a lifting mount.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 04/29/2003 :  16:12:43  Show Profile
Karen - I had the same problem with my Nissan 8hp electric start/remote controls. I solved it by bolting about a 15" length of 1" diam. aluminum tubing across the turning bracket, and then adding a bicycle handlebar grip to each end. Looks neat and I don't have to reach very far to use it. (Was also dirt cheap - I found the tubing in the marina garbage!)<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/29/2003 :  19:27:41  Show Profile
Karen,

West Marine sells a device called EZ-Steer that enables the outboard to be steered with the tiller.

The device connects the outboard to the rudder so they both move in unison. I don't have personal exerience with this device so I can't give any kind of recommendation, but it could be an option

Here's a link to EZ- Steer,

http://www.ezsteer.com/

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Dave B
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Response Posted - 04/29/2003 :  21:30:59  Show Profile
Hi Karen... A few things to consider before you make a decision:

1. The Honda handle is probably longer than you're used to, so that the throttle is easier to reach.

2. The shift is on the front--again, much easier to use than on the older side-shifters.

3. You apparently already have a remote throttle/shifter, but wouldn't your cockpit be nicer without it? I can only submit that I wouldn't want one after having used the new Honda for two seasons.

BTW, the 9.9 is, IMHO, a waste of a couple of boat units. The 8 is the same engine minus a few high-end RPMs you'll NEVER use.


Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda

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jguyot
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Response Posted - 05/01/2003 :  12:47:08  Show Profile
Hi Karen

I have 2001 Honda 8hp High Thrust with the remote package albeit on a 250wk. But, one thing that they don't tell you about this motor, is that it does not come with a "Friction Stop" (to keep the motor from flopping around or centered). I had to look at a regular 8hp motor and order the parts seperately (If I remember correctly only about $20 and works fine)
Normally, I just reach back, loosen the friction stop, & turn the engine , if I need too, but, I have wheel steering and all my controls are on the pedestal, so this may not pertain to you.


Jerry Guyot
250WK #586
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77Gypsy
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Response Posted - 05/02/2003 :  16:05:22  Show Profile
i have your same motor "honda 9.9" please let me know what modification/remote you'll b doing. i'de liek to do something like that also


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Steven de Filippis
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