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dock
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Initially Posted - 05/26/2003 : 19:10:25

The Catalina manual reads:

To put the pop top in the up position you must go inside the cabin.
The top is raised by lifting upward and forward at the same time. With the pop top in the fully raised position, reach forward to the
pop top slide lock and lock the top to the mast.

I do not have this on my 1990 C25. Am I supposed to? If so where do I get it?



"ParaDocks"

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/26/2003 : 19:25:57

Jim,

The poptop slide lock assembly can be bought from Catalina Direct for $21.00. Additionally, if you don't have their C25 Owner's Handbook you might want to get a copy because along with a parts list its got some other good-to-know stuff in it.

<img src="http://www.catalinadirect.com/images/catalogcvr.gif" border=0>

Here is a link to their website.

http://www.catalinadirect.com/

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Dave B
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Response Posted - 05/26/2003 : 20:56:41

Jim: You may have it and not know it. The lock is a J-shaped cast aluminum piece attached to a sail-stop with a knurled knob. The sail stop fits in the mast track so that you can slide the J-shaped piece up until it hooks the forward edge of the poptop where it leans against the mast. Ours is black.

If you don't have one, as Don says, Catalina Direct does.

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 05/27/2003 : 10:57:07

Here's a link to the Brochures & Manuals page that shows the pop-top mast lock.

http://c25c250.best.vwh.net/restricted/pc19.gif

Check around on your "new" boat. You may find this in a drawer or even still on the mast.

And, yes, you need this to effectively keep the pop top from falling down and injuring someone.

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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dock
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Response Posted - 05/27/2003 : 11:05:09

THANKS FOR THE REPLY.

My C25 has the boom attached directly to the mast with screws. It's a 1990 tall rig. There isn't a sail slide track at or below the boom. Any locking mechanism would have to be screwed on. Does anyone have this arrangement with a pop top lock?

"ParaDocks"

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John Mason
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Response Posted - 05/28/2003 : 14:10:34

Nope, never heard of such a thing on a Catalina 25. How does the sail attach to the mast without a slot?

John Mason
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 05/28/2003 : 15:53:08

If the boom pivot is screwed or bolted to the mast rather than having a sliding gooseneck it sounds like a non-standard rig.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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Greg Jackson
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Response Posted - 05/28/2003 : 18:06:55

The later models had the boom mount screwed into place, not sliding up and down in the slug slot. My 1989 is the same, I think the 1988 is also.

Never the less, to the person with the 1990 who suggested the slot does not exist, I would suggest checking a bit closer. The mast is an extrusion, the slot goes the full length.

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John G-
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Response Posted - 05/28/2003 : 18:58:49

You could simply tie a line from one leg of the poptop around the mast to the other front leg. I have the [url="http://www.catalinadirect.com/pop%20top%20mast%20lock.html"] poptop mast lock[/url] and still use the line as a safety.
It sounds like you could unscrew the boom, slide the the [url="http://www.catalinadirect.com/pop%20top%20mast%20lock.html"] poptop mast lock[/url] into place and you’re home free.
 

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ddlyle
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Response Posted - 05/28/2003 : 22:02:52

I have the pop-top lock, but I also use a bungee around one leg of the pop-top to the mast. The pop-top lock on my boat has come loose and fallen down (the track) without my knowing it and I looked up and saw it down. I didnt have the bungee up then. The pop-top is resting on the mast so the weight is forward (very slightly). The bungee doesn't require much strength to keep the pop-top from going aft.
It's nice not having to worry if the lock has slid down the track.
And if one doesn't have a track, the line (rope) or bungee method is simple and cheap.

Cap'n Dave
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Doug C.
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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 13:15:37

A have the 1990 with tall rig. To get the lock into the slide you will need to unscrew the the pivot for the boom or lower the mast to slide it in from the bottom.

Doug Cavin
1990 C25 TR/WK #6010
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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 13:32:16

If you don't have the stock sliding 'J' hook you can also use a cleat that slides in the track. The forward edge of the pop top will catch in the cleat just like original fitting. You can purchase a cleat on a slider from any good chandlery.

Ed Montague on 'Yahoo'
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MattL
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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 13:49:35

I have had the j slide slip down and the poptop fall on my head, that *(^&%$ is heavy. At one time I forgot to put it in place when raising the mast. I held it up with bungee cords which worked very well.

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 15:37:06

I put a pre-cut length of 2 x 4 (with appropriate size slots cut into the ends) under each side of the pop-top when it's raised. No worries about bungees stretching or breaking, J-slides slipping, etc etc. The edges of the pop-top can easily sever a finger or two if it falls to say nothing about damage to a cranium! <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 21:37:34

Good idea, Derek... I was about to say there are situations where you want the stretchiness of a bungee, and others where you really don't. I'd call this one of the latter. ROPE would be a safer.

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 21:55:12

I never thought of this before, but I could use the cunningham hook to help secure the pop-top. Since the hook is right there and is run to a cabintop clutch, I could simply reach up, grab my cunninghan hook, put it on a pop-top support, then tighten the cunningham with the clutch on the cabin top.

Thanks for giving me the idea.

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