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Doug
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Initially Posted - 05/31/2003 :  21:45:41  Show Profile
Noeta is on the hard this week getting painted and cleaned up. Thinking about repainting the boot stripe, but for some reason the $29.99/ quart for the paint ticks me off. So can anyone tell me what the difference is between a $30 can of marine enamel and a $6.00 can of brush on Rustolem enamel? Anyone ever used a non-marine grade paint for the stripe?

Doug - #1913 Noeta

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OJ
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Response Posted - 05/31/2003 :  21:57:30  Show Profile
As you may know, your boot stripe is gel coat, not paint. Why not just clean, polish and wax it?
I've never painted anything above the waterline on OJ so I can't give advice on any kind of paint.
Good luck.




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Doug
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Response Posted - 05/31/2003 :  23:22:00  Show Profile
I'm assuming that under the coats of Blue and Orange/red there was a gel coat stripe, but PO changed that. Look’s like the Orange / Red was pitted, so they painted it (poorly) blue. Now the blue is failing at the stern and Noeta looks like she has Orange teeth.

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 06/01/2003 :  08:09:50  Show Profile
Doug West sells their brand of topside paint for less than $20 a quart, I am fairly sure (maybe that was on sale???) Seafit or something brand. Or try somewhere other than West; they are often the highest price anywhere. Do you have a Boater's World nearby? They are cheaper. I would not experiment with paint that was not for a marine environment. I would give you a can of electric blue, but it would cost you more than $20 to drive to Portland area so's I could give it to you!

Gary B.
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eric.werkowitz
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Response Posted - 06/01/2003 :  09:09:58  Show Profile
Doug,

I did a bottom job last year and went through the same quandry. While trying to decide on an over-priced product at West Marine I asked one of the staff, an older gentleman who worked for Catalina when they had a plant in Ft. Walton Beach. He said he just used Krylon (see below) on his boats.

That was good enough for me. I lightly sanded the stripes, masked them, put several coats on, peeled the masking, and put on a couple coats of wax. Almost a year and a half later it still looks good. And I keep my boat in the water year round.

Correction: It was Rustoleum!!

Eric Werkowitz
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ronrryan
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Response Posted - 06/01/2003 :  11:07:52  Show Profile
Practical Sailor did a bit on topside paints a while back and I remember they tested Rustoleum and found it was "good" and performed better than some Marine paints, but not as well as the best polyurethanes. I recall the test was done on white, and have no idea if Blue would perform differently. Good luck, ron srsk Orion SW FL


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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 06/01/2003 :  11:27:42  Show Profile
Krylon does a nice job for a spray-can paint. I suppose if you have to spritz it up every few years... no big deal. Another $3.79 and Bob's your uncle.

Pettit Easypoxy remains my favorite paint of all though. I call it my 'Tom Sawyer' paint. Goes on so nice and looks so good you could charge admission to use the brush. When I first started using it, it was $15 a qt or so... over the past few years it's almost doubled.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
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OJ
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Response Posted - 06/01/2003 :  12:18:12  Show Profile
Doug,
If Buzz Marring was reading this he'd tell you that he stripped the paint off his previously painted hull and polished the gel coat. Paint isn't as durable as gel coat and will not repel lake matter (especially at the waterline!) nearly as well - both of which it sounds like your experiencing.
Short term pain, long term gain.

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 06/01/2003 :  14:07:07  Show Profile
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Doug,
If Buzz Maring was reading this he'd tell you that he stripped the paint off his previously painted hull and polished the gel coat. Paint isn't as durable as gel coat and will not repel lake matter (especially at the waterline!) nearly as well - both of which it sounds like your experiencing.
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Steve's right ... a PO painted the topsides of my boat, and it was a big mistake if you ask me. The paint's finish had become very dull, and there were spots where it was chipping and peeling off. Nothing I tried would make it look any better. I used fiberglass-friendly paint stripper and about 40 single-edged razor blades to get it off ... 'took the better part of five days ... believe me, it was NO FUN.

The gelcoat underneath all the paint was fine. Yes, there are some scratches that the PO was trying to hide, but the paint ended up looking worse than the scratches. After compounding and polishing it, the gelcoat was starting to look practically new. I am gradually filling the scratches with gelcoat repair ... they are hardly noticeable any more, and I don't have all that nasty looking paint on the sides.

Anyway, if you've got enough time before you splash again, you might try removing the layers of paint from the boot stripe, compound/polish the stripe and see how it looks ... you might just like it.

Good luck!

Buzz Maring
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eric.werkowitz
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Response Posted - 06/01/2003 :  15:24:11  Show Profile
I guess I should note that I was in the process of changing the color scheme on the boat from that "everybody has it" Pacific Blue canvas with blue bootstripe to Erin Green with Green boot stripe. I wouldn't have messed with it otherwise.

But, the fact remains that the Rustoleum has worked very well for me in this NW Florida environment.

Eric Werkowitz
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