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Dave B
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Response Posted - 07/04/2003 :  12:57:14  Show Profile
Val: The bridge/tunnel Brooke mentions is from the lower end of the DelMarVa Penninsula to Norfolk--part bridge, and part tunnel (so the bad guys can't use it to block the USN from getting out of Norfolk). The bridge is much wierder than the one at Annapolis--it's swayback between each of the pilings, so you constantly go up-down-up-down-up-down... Very disconcerting! By comparison, the bridge at Annapolis is like a runway. It just has curving approaches on both sides.

Now, about the most important subject: crabcakes... The R.M. Inn not only bakes 'em, they use some wonderful seasoning along with the meat from some special part of the crab--can't recall the details--and what I would call minimal filler. (As you saw, they also offer a fried version--both are great.) I've had crab up and down both sides of the Bay--not on Tangier Island--and it may be feasible to tie R.M., but probably not to beat them. (At many places, I didn't even like the things that much.)

We've been looking at the real estate market in Talbot County (Easton/Oxord/St. Michaels) for several years now, as well as over in the Annapolis area (better for my job, which involves travel). Talbot keeps getting pricier, but has a nice combination of an easy-going lifestyle and the ammenities, including a hospital linked to Johns Hopkins. It's just a little remote from an airport (BWI), especially when weekend traffic hits your favorite bridge. If we live there, I feel like I should be sailing a little gaff-rigger (with 2' draft)...

One thing you have on Great South Bay that the Chesapeake is often lacking: wind! The Chessy is often like Western L.I. Sound, with L.I. blocking the Atlantic breezes, and its own sea breezes developing slowly if at all during the peak of the summer (like today). Best sailing there appears to be April-June and Sept.-Nov. The Chessy has something you may not have: voracious black flies. However, it's been said you could explore a different river or creek off the Bay every day for the rest of your life--just watch the trot lines and crab pots.

Two great little books on the Chesapeake are <u>An Island Out of Time</u> (about Smith Island) by Horton, and <u>Beautiful Swimmers</u> by Warner. If you're intrigued by the watermen of the bay, these books will fascinate you.

BTW, there are lots of charter companies down there... <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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tinob
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Response Posted - 07/05/2003 :  09:14:00  Show Profile
Dave,

The older one gets the more concerned they become with staying alive, or so it seems. I traversed the bridge/tunnle crossing several times a few years ago. Never had a problem with it, other than it being long. But the one at Annapolis put the fear of god in the Admiral an myself. I can't imagine anyone commuting via that bridge daily. I'd love to have been connected to a cardiac monitor during the crossing, it would make a great wall frieze.

The black flies were absent, thanks, not so the mosquitoes. Do their bites ever stop itching?

There didn't seem to be a wind problem, light but steady and blew all day. The local yacht club had several sailing schools busy that day. Twenty or more Optimists, a class of Sunfish and six or more Shields. But what am I not mentioning <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>, didn't see one Catalina.

Val on Calista # 3936

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Response Posted - 07/05/2003 :  11:44:04  Show Profile
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...But what am I not mentioning <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>, didn't see one Catalina.
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You must not have walked the docks at Crocket's Boatyard. They're there--various sizes. That's the only place I ever saw a C-22 with a roller furling main--the roller was external behind the mast.

BTW, do you ever cross the Whitestone Bridge?

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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tinob
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Response Posted - 07/06/2003 :  08:42:35  Show Profile
Dave--Haven't crossed the Whitestone Bridge since the paint dried<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>When we go north we usually go by way of the Throg Neck Bridge. Actually it was easier to go by way of the Whitestone Bridge when we lived in Queens but since moving to Suffolk the Throgg Neck Bridge is more direct. We seem not to mind either.

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Response Posted - 07/06/2003 :  11:44:14  Show Profile
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Dave--Haven't crossed the Whitestone Bridge since the paint dried<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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That's an inside joke, folks... They never stop painting the Whitestone Bridge over Hell's Gate between The Bronx and Queens.

Val: It occurs to me that the bay bridge at Annapolis is two bridges--I believe the old one is westbound, and the new one eastbound. We've been on the eastbound side many more times--I don't clearly remember the other. Maybe it's scarier than I thought. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 07/07/2003 :  07:32:00  Show Profile
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>The bridge/tunnel Brooke mentions is from the lower end of the DelMarVa Penninsula to Norfolk--part bridge, and part tunnel (so the bad guys can't use it to block the USN from getting out of Norfolk). The bridge is much wierder than the one at Annapolis--it's swayback between each of the pilings, so you constantly go up-down-up-down-up-down... Very disconcerting! By comparison, the bridge at Annapolis is like a runway. It just has curving approaches on both sides. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

Dave, you need to get back from Mali every now and then. A few years ago a parallel span was built for the CBBT (but not parallel tunnels yet) and the whole thing resurfaced. No more porpoising! And the mid-bay bridge only has a curved approack on the western side. The Kent Island side is straight as an arrow.

Val, the reason it was built that way (in 1952) is that the western approaches used to end at the ferry dock (the remnants are on the south side of the bridge), and as Rt. 50 came into the shore, it was at an angle. The ferry dock on the eastern side was at Claiborne, farther south, so the bridge approaches on that side were new.

Many places in the Chesapeake there is a choice of crabcakes between fried and broiled. I like broiled infinitely better. I forgot to mention another amazing place for such: There's a restaurant on Harford Road in NE Baltimore called Angelina's. Their crabcakes are fabulous and are shipped all over the world. It's an Italian restaurant, but somehow they developed an amazing crabcake. Been going there since I was 2 years old.

I guess I'll have to go back sometime to the Robert Morris. I had several mediocre overpriced dinners there: it's been 20 years, literally, since the last. Present company excluded of course, but there are lots of places in the area that cater to tourists who don't know any better. The real places to eat are the waterman's equivalent of truckstops. Watermen won't put up with filler in their crabcakes, or shredded, stringy crab. Never, for instance, will you see watermen in a restaurant called anything like "Fisherman's Inn." But here and there, usually on some back creek, there's some little place with food to die for that only the locals know about.

Brooke



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Response Posted - 07/07/2003 :  10:21:12  Show Profile
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Dave, you need to get back from Mali every now and then....

There's a restaurant on Harford Road in NE Baltimore called Angelina's. Their crabcakes are fabulous
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Brooke: Actually, they were building the parallel bridge the last time I went over (porpoising is the perfect term). Glad it's done.

I've been to Angelina's about... hmmmmmm... 15 years ago(?) Too long to make any comparisons. I can't promise you that the RM is not a little overpriced--depending on your definition. They serve the same great crabcakes for lunch, which probably is the better buy.

We tried a couple of "local" spots, probably mostly on the Western shore... Very bad. Back on the Eastern Shore, do you know of a good place around Chestertown?

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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