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Douglas
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Initially Posted - 06/08/2003 : 12:41:30

One of the posts around here was talking about sails and various ideas. Lazy Jacks and or not having same. How to stow the sails or what to do when single handing when you have no Lazy Jacks. When sailing aboard Odyssey a 90' Sparkman and Stephens I learned to Jelly Roll the sails. After all a main sail weighing 500 lbs you need the easyest system possable. I tried to explain how Jelly rolling was done but I think there were a few questions. Following is a simple discription and pictures.
When the main is down you simply pull out the bottom 3 or 4 feet of the sail next to the boom. Pulling aft on the leach of the sail you lay it into this flat area battens and all. Once its looking tidy you roll the outer edge toward the middle and roll the sail up onto the boom. Then put your ties on the sail. I hope the pictures give you all a better idea. Its easy to do one you have practiced it. Lots easyer than flaking. I threw in my home made sail ties for fun.

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Doug&Ruth
Triska (Alberg 29)
Tacoma Wa.

Edited by - Douglas on 06/09/2003 14:29:20

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 06/09/2003 : 12:40:01

what a great idea and I can't wait to try it. I nominate this to become a tech tip!

<img src="http://www.indiscipline.org/cat25/pictures/icon.jpg" border=0>Indiscipline 1978 FK #398

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Dave B
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Response Posted - 06/09/2003 : 21:50:29

That's what I do... I fold it into itself a couple of times and then roll. It works even better with a bolt rope (as on my previous boat), since you can uniformly roll the entire sail into a nice tube. With slugs that stay on the mast, you're basically rolling the leach, and still dealing with a bunched up luff--I guess you could consider it to be flaked, but rolling the sale sorta unflakes it.

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 06/10/2003 : 10:06:03

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>It works even better with a bolt rope (as on my previous boat), since you can uniformly roll the entire sail into a nice tube. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

I can attest to this. With my new loose footed main, I have to take the slack out of the outhaul prior to rolling the sail whereas my old shelf footed main simply caught the sail in it's ample pouch.

<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>Don Lucier<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>
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dave holtgrave
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Response Posted - 06/10/2003 : 10:40:19

hey douglas
what is the fastener that you used to connect the sail ties together at the loop?
i am trying to use fids and it is a real project.
let me know what they are and were i can buy these
thanks
dave holtgrave
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sailing carlyle lake in southern illinois

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 06/10/2003 : 18:06:42

I formed a loop and lashed it. (Tied it with twine) or dental floss. What the heck do they call that when you use twine to form an eye rather than using a fid.

Doug&Ruth
Triska (Alberg 29)
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 06/10/2003 : 19:00:59

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>What the heck do they call that when you use twine to form an eye rather than using a fid.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

A "Seizing" binds two parts of a rope side by side.

<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>Don Lucier<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>
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