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JimB517
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Initially Posted - 06/23/2003 :  16:29:16  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
We have the 1978 pedestal table interior. Back then, Catalina used a very cheap and ill designed pedestal. Has anyone come up with a clever, cheap and flexible way to stablize the table? When up, it moves fore and aft plus side to side several inches. We need to be able to easily raise and lower the table - it is also our bed.

I tried making additional 1" PVC legs that I wedge under the table when it is up but these don't work very good. I've also pounded in wedges to the gap in the pedestal itself, these work OK until they fall out. Considering drilling holes through the pedestal and inserting bolts with wing nuts through both tubes. One bolt for and aft, one side to side. Not sure this will help. Will be difficult to raise the table, align the holes, get the bolts in, and tighten them enough to make a difference.

I like the pedestal table, don't want to convert to a traditional style (I suppose it is a possibility). Can't afford a $300 new hydraulic pedestal from West M.

<img src="http://www.indiscipline.org/cat25/pictures/icon.jpg" border=0>Indiscipline 1978 FK #398
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Response Posted - 06/23/2003 :  16:33:30  Show Profile  Visit frich's Homepage
Jim

There was a great fix in the Tech tips section. It showed a simple turnbuckle attached to the bulkhead and underside of the table.


Frank Rich
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 06/23/2003 :  18:25:07  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
I don't think that tip was for a pedestal table, however, I just looked at it and it might work. Let me think about it. A rod of some kind (or turnbuckle) could go between the base of the L-shaped bulkhead seat and the forward part of the table. The quick release pin is key. Another rod (or turnbuckle) could go between the base of the port salon seat and the table. These rods would have to be 2 to 3 feet long.

I'd prefer a solution that did not require diners to step over anything while they scoot in around the table.



<img src="http://www.indiscipline.org/cat25/pictures/icon.jpg" border=0>Indiscipline 1978 FK #398
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RoofRoof
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Response Posted - 06/24/2003 :  12:57:43  Show Profile
My 1979 model with the true pedestal table had 1 folding leg underneath to steady it when the table was dropped for bed use.

This was done by the prior owner, but it looks like something most any hardware store would have. It was a 1 inch square leg, with a swivel mount. The leg would lock in the down position or in the up position.
You might do the same and add 2 or 3 more, and have them longer to use with the table UP.
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 06/24/2003 :  13:03:39  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Yes, we have the folding leg for when the table is down. You are exactly right, a couple more such legs for when the table is up would be perfect. I'll see if I can find something.

<img src="http://www.indiscipline.org/cat25/pictures/icon.jpg" border=0>Indiscipline 1978 FK #398
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Response Posted - 06/24/2003 :  15:31:41  Show Profile
My table isn't wobbly at all which makes me wonder if you are missing the piece on the interior of the mounting leg that pulls snug when tightened with the bolt.

Ray Clift
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 06/24/2003 :  18:03:20  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
My pedestal has a L shaped steel rod with a rubber handle under the table. When turned, this handle tightens against a nut and washer inside the inner tube. The whole thing can ride up and down a slot (like the mast slot). It is a very simple arrangement and not very effective. Am I missing some parts?

<img src="http://www.indiscipline.org/cat25/pictures/icon.jpg" border=0>Indiscipline 1978 FK #398
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 06/25/2003 :  16:13:45  Show Profile
Where is the wobble coming from? The table support tubing not getting snugged in the pedestal base, the pedestal itself, or the table top mounting to table support tube.

Mine seems pretty sturdy.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
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tzk53s
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Response Posted - 06/27/2003 :  14:37:31  Show Profile
Jim, Sounds like your missing the inner locking wedge. This is the piece that properly ditributes the clamping force evenly to the inner round shape of the tube. My 1978 SK pedestal model has this piece in it and it is rock solid.
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 06/27/2003 :  16:38:14  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
The table itself is solid - it's just the pedestal that is wobbly. Can anyone post a picture or description of the "inner locking wedge"? I could probably make one.

<img src="http://www.indiscipline.org/cat25/pictures/icon.jpg" border=0>Indiscipline 1978 FK #398
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77Gypsy
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Response Posted - 07/08/2003 :  19:23:02  Show Profile
maybe drilling a small hole under the table and fitting a round wooden pole, i.e. a broom stuick which you can stain to match it. it'll act as a new table leg. i did this on my last hunter 23.

Steve
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timpky
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Response Posted - 07/15/2003 :  15:26:57  Show Profile
Jim, I also have a 78 and my table wobbled quite a bit. I kept tightening the handle that would raise and lower the table but there was still quite a wobble. I then discovered that there is a second handle located where the table top attaches to the post. Once I tightened this handle the table became quite stable. Hope this helps.

Tim Peoples
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