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Tray
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Namibia
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Initially Posted - 06/24/2003 : 16:03:00

The day he/she buys a boat, and the day he/she sells it...

I don't believe the latter, as I have accepted an offer for Weeny Bean, and I'm somewhat saddened that she sold so quickly. I have the unpleasant task of removing all of our belongings and loading her onto the trailer this weekend (without a goodbye sail).<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

But...it means bigger things later on. Her new owner lives in the Sarasota, FL area, and has asked for some help. I will show him what I can when he picks up the boat, and of course, recommend this forum. Hopefully someone in his area can lend some time, and show him the ropes, much like Ben-FL helped me.

Suzie, are you available for a little tutoring this summer?

Tray
(Boatless in Florida)

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Shelby
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Response Posted - 06/24/2003 : 16:19:24

I've been thinking about selling "Third S" as of late. Haven't had enough time to get out on her during the sailing season here in AZ. I really don't like the idea of doing it though. Hope you have those bigger things you are referring to.

Shelby
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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 06/25/2003 : 22:32:03

Glad that you are able to find a buyer so soon Tray. Although I was hoping to do a little cruising with you since you moved her closer to where Chick-a-pea is. Maybe you and the Admiral will find something "bigger and better" by this Autumn when the winds and temperature are more conducive to good sailing.

Safe voyages,
Ben, FL s/v Chick-a-pea C250wk
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Tray
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Response Posted - 06/26/2003 : 06:53:52

I never suspected that it would sell so quickly either. I was really looking forward to more time down on that part of the river. The few times I got to go out there were great.

As for to bigger and better things...I just found out that the Navy will not move a boat. If it was an RV, no problem, but any boat over 14 feet without a trailer must be shipped at the sailor's expense. I got a ball-park estimate from a shipper for 6000.00 to move a Catalina 30. I may remain boatless until we get to California next summer.<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle> I'll use the time to save more boat units.

Tray
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Response Posted - 06/26/2003 : 09:39:06

I recently moved my C25 from the FingerLakes to Boston. I got estimates from $520 to $2500. I took the low estimate, and discovered that I then needed to arrange loading and unloading myself. After paying the boatyards at each end, it was closer to $2,000, but still below. And quite an education (first boat). I suspect your estimate is way too high.

Mort Hoffman

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 06/26/2003 : 10:28:03

"I just found out that the Navy will not move a boat".
That is strange, Tray. We had an Air Force officer move to Canyon Lake from the Northwest with his 36' Ketch and the Air Force paid all the moving costs. He was a live aboard so maybe they treated it like his house...
Derek

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 06/26/2003 : 10:34:24

When I moved osmepneo from Nyack, NY to The Great Sacandaga Lake I had a boat mover do it for around $400. I left the boat on her cradle at the Nyack club, and when I got there the mover had it on his rig, and had her nearly tied down. Four hours later I went to the marina on the Great Sacandaga Lake and osmepneo was in the water, mast up. Loading and unloading was included. I don't know how far the mover goes, but I was very pleased with his work and would recommend him to anyone who would like a referance.

Don Peet
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The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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teamwike
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Response Posted - 06/26/2003 : 20:57:34

Hello Tray,

We moved from Jaxs to Maryland one year ago with a Cat 25.( Wife in USCG) We did a dity move which paid for the cost of the trailer for the boat.
My wife has done some heavy research on the subject on the diffrent ways to move a boat with in the DOD and would be more more than glad to pass on what she found.
We have another friend that had a Hunter 35 moved by the DOD. Not all costs were covered (lifting the boat out of the water & building the cradle), but not a too bad of a deal.

Max not in Jaxs

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Tray
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Response Posted - 06/29/2003 : 08:35:05

Max,

Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated. I've spoken with my PPO, and they will only pay for the cost of moving the weight of the boat as part of my household goods. The way they explained it to me is that 7000lbs of household goods may only cost 1000-1500 dollars to move, and that is all they would reimburse towards moving a 7000lb boat.

As far as boat moving costs are concerned, I have followed up with several movers in the area, and the going rate is around $2/mile, which would be about 6000.00 to get to California. I think I would rather use the 4000-5000 out of pocket expense towards another boat out there.

The other option (which was immediately overruled by the pregnant admiral) is to sail the boat there. The Navy would consider it an RV, and pay for mileage. Which is absolutely nuts IMO considering the distance involved. It would cost them much more to pay me to sail it, than it would for them to ship it.

Hopefully this will be my one and only coast to coast move until I retire.

Tray
(Boatless in Florida)

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Dave B
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Response Posted - 06/29/2003 : 09:20:44

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I think I would rather use the 4000-5000 out of pocket expense towards another boat out there.
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Sounds like the plan to me... There are good boats on the market out there--you could end up with a nicer one!

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 06/29/2003 : 11:09:24

...also consider the advantage(s) of acquiring a slip or mooring with that next boat purchase rather than moving a boat from Florida and it ending up on shore while you're on a marina waiting list.

Mark L.
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Bruce Ebling
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Response Posted - 06/29/2003 : 11:10:26

This last Feb. I bought a 89 WK from Salt Lake and pulled it home to Eugene Or.. Just this week I was able to sell my 83 FK to a wonderful couple. I now finally will have the time to devote to my new ride. So I guess in my case selling my old boat was a good/happy thing. You never know what is in store for you in the future and but I know there is one constant and that is change.
Bruce Ebling
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sailgal
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Response Posted - 06/30/2003 : 00:23:45

Tray I just rec'vd your email, will be happy to help out as best I can. Sent you a reply. Good luck!!

Suzie, Tropical Sleigh
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teamwike
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Response Posted - 07/01/2003 : 22:08:27

I am in the Coast Guard and do not know all the Navy language, but I know that I was able to do a DITY move with our Cat 25. The weight of the boat was included in my total weight limit. After expenses to buy a trailer, lift the boat, plus the cost for rental truck and gas. We came out about even.

Before deciding on a DITY move I was told that I would not be able to get mileage to sail the boat to the new location unless we lived on the boat.

Also I was told that they would move the boat, but the cost of lifting boat out of the water, the cradle, and putting the boat back in the water at the new location was not covered. I was under the impression that the rest was covered. They said nothing about the weight, but that was not an issue for us. My HHG plus the boat just did go over my max weight.

Good Luck on what ever you decide.

Wife of Max not in Jaxs

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billp
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Response Posted - 07/03/2003 : 23:00:37

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I recently moved my C25 from the FingerLakes to Boston. I got estimates from $520 to $2500. I took the low estimate, and discovered that I then needed to arrange loading and unloading myself. After paying the boatyards at each end, it was closer to $2,000, but still below. And quite an education (first boat). I suspect your estimate is way too high.

Mort Hoffman
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Hey Mort,

Do any of those shippers work outside the east? As we discussed earlier, its very likely that the move from Muskegon to southern Illinois will happen (I'm optimistic about the deal).

A question I have is whether a cradle can be mounted on a trailer to transport a C25?

Bill

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 07/03/2003 : 23:16:27

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>A question I have is whether a cradle can be mounted on a trailer to transport a C25?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

That's probably how it arrived from the factory when new.

When I had my boat transported, they used a hydraulic trailer that simply went under my steel cradle and lifted it and the boat a foot or so off the ground. After a little additional securing, they were off and running.

I've seen some large sailboats transported on their wooden cradles that were secured to flatbed trailers.

<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>Don Lucier<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>
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Response Posted - 07/03/2003 : 23:30:13

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>A question I have is whether a cradle can be mounted on a trailer to transport a C25?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

That's probably how it arrived from the factory when new.

When I had my boat transported, they used a hydraulic trailer that simply went under my steel cradle and lifted it and the boat a foot or so off the ground. After a little additional securing, they were off and running.

I've seen some large sailboats transported on their wooden cradles that were secured to flatbed trailers.

<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>Don Lucier<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>
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North Star SR/FK
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My thought is to put the boat and cradle on a small flatbed trailer capable of being pulled by a large pick-up truck or U-Haul truck with a heavy hitch. That would require that the cradle would be firmly secured to the trailer.

I'm trying to make a deal on a C25 fin keel. It would need to transported about 450 miles from its current home to its new one.

Bill

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