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La Dolce Vita
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Initially Posted - 06/30/2003 : 09:59:11

First I thank you for all the suggestions on flushing out my motor. I will try all of your tips.

Now I need your help with some ideas on how to keep water from getting into the cabin. When the cribs boards are in place and the hatch is closed there are gapping holes.Yesterday I was scrubing the teak and I was very careful with the water.When I opened up the cabin there was water on the stairs,the stern cushions,etc.Is there some way to fix this?

Thanks for your help!
La Dolce Vita
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Douglas
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Response Posted - 06/30/2003 : 12:23:34

Take yourself to the hardware store and get some peal and stick weather strip material. It comes in many widths on a roll. Peal and stick to fill the visable gaps. It wont stop it all but it will help.

Doug&Ruth
Triska (Alberg 29)
Tacoma Wa.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 06/30/2003 : 13:30:29

This might fall in the "don't sweat the small stuff" category. I'd consider this part of boat ownership . . . everything you mentioned above is designed to withstand getting wet occasionally.

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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 06/30/2003 : 13:41:19

Hey Ed,

Maybe make yourself a clear plastic companionway cover like I have. I didn't make it for keeping wash water out, but it works pretty well for that too.

http://www.catalina25-250.org/tech/tech25/pictures/sdhatcvr.jpg

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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La Dolce Vita
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Response Posted - 07/01/2003 : 00:06:57

We spent several weeks cleaning up the boat and used alot of elbow grease. When everything got wet even after being careful we started to wonder what can we do about this. The best place to find answers and ideas is right here.

Bill, on our 22 catalina I made a campanionway cover out of sunbrella which worked well and plan on doing the same for our 25. I just need to find some time or order it from CD. It may not work as well since the holes seem to be bigger and it looks like the po messed with the whole door frame. In the meantime I will use a plastic cover. If I come up with a good fix I will let you know.

Thanks again,
ED

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f_sondergaard
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Response Posted - 07/01/2003 : 07:40:05

To keep the water out of the companian doors, we made a sunbrella cover. It took about two yards of material.
Jason and Fran
1982 Catlina 25
swing to wing

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karentc
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Response Posted - 07/01/2003 : 08:45:40

Hi!
Companionway cover as in a rectangle of fabric which you put over the boom? Or a fitted cover or.......
I have this same problem and the cushions under the steps get wet every time we have a good rain... (Have been putting a folded up tarp and beach towels on them for a couple of years now....
Thanks!

Karen Christensen
Moondance
Traverse City, MI

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 07/01/2003 : 10:13:44

I was thinking about fitting a leather or fabric 'skirt' that would snap on the outside of the sliding hatch trim and close the opening between the top hatchboard and the sliding hatch.

Kinda like Bill Holcomb's cover, only just for the top gap.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 07/01/2003 : 10:38:15

I discovered on Antares this winter that rain and water dripping from the mainsail cover was landing on the edge of the slots in the top crib board. The splash drives substantial water inside which sprays the whole companionway area and, worse yet, drips down the stairs right onto the aft berth cushions. I'd like to install a white plastic/vinyl hood over the crib board slots, so I can keep unobstructed airflow. Any ideas on where to find the hood would be very much appreciated.

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J.B. Manley, Antares #4849 '86 FK/SR
Grand Lake O' The Cherokees, NE Oklahoma

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Steve Shetter
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Response Posted - 07/01/2003 : 22:37:45

Ed,

The simple solution may be to make sure that you have the crib boards facing the right direction. My boards have a "shiplap" cut into them to divert any water to the outside of the cabin. If those boards are installed backwards, they will perorm the same task, but in the wrong direction.... INTO the cabin. the proper direction to install them is with the longer side of the board on the outside of the cabin... in a roof shingle fashion.

If this doesn't help, you may need to take a hard look at your threshold.

Good luck,

Steve Shetter
"At Last"
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f_sondergaard
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Response Posted - 07/02/2003 : 12:27:03

Karen, ours is fitted around the companionway and snaps to the hatch trim, where the pop top cover snaps are. We have pictures posted on this site, but I have no idea how to attach them to this post!!! Sorry, but if you search under companionway covers you will see our photos!
Jason and Fran
1982 Catalina 25
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timpky
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Response Posted - 07/02/2003 : 16:59:49

I had noticed a posting on the tech tips area by "Sweetheart" regarding a cover over the hatch and boards using the snaps for the pop top. Sounded like a great idea and I am considering for my boat. Also keeps the brightwork out of the sun. http://www.catalina25-250.org/tech/tech25/sweethrt.html
http://www.catalina25-250.org/tech/tech25/sweethrt.html

Tim Peoples
Sarasota, FL
78 Catalina 25 SK Hull #875

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paddykember
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Response Posted - 07/02/2003 : 17:32:25

I have used same method as did for years in Argentina. For about $12 you can buy a plastic tarp, of 12 x 10 ' ( also 10 x10, 8x10, etc.) wich having it as a tent over the boom, will cover even your windows, and has several holes on each side to tie down to side of boat. It takes no more than 3 min. to install and take away, and here in Miami, not only keeps water out of those never ending places, but also keeps the sun from most of your teak, with real protection which is not a small issue.
These plastics tarps may last about a year, and for its cost, just get a new one whenever needed. They come in blue white and even silver. Does not look good, but must tell you all performes perfect.
Dont go to the mistake of getting something heavy and difficult to handle, these light ones can be folded into a very small size to put away and install in no time.
Been out it even has given me the use of full cockpit under rain in some occasions, not having to close yourself in cabin.
Worth the try.

Paddy Kember

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 07/02/2003 : 21:27:52

An added benefit to the bimini that I installed last year is I no longer have those little water leaks coming in through the various nooks and crannies around the hatchboards. My bimini, which is always up, extends over the cabintop by a good foot or so, which keeps out the rain even with the hatchboards removed.

Another benefit of the bimini is my finished hatchboards are always shaded and out of the weather and, because of this, they look as good today as they did when I refinished them.

<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>Don Lucier<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>
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karentc
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Response Posted - 07/03/2003 : 09:01:21

Don:

Where did you get your bimini and what did it cost???

Thanks,

Karen

Karen Christensen
Moondance, #5465 1986 C-25, SR, FK, Honda 8
Traverse City, Michigan

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 07/03/2003 : 10:22:25

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Where did you get your bimini and what did it cost??? - Karen<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

Karen,

It is a vinyl, not sunbrella, bimini with aluminum supports that I bought from BoatUS for $139.00. It was originally $180, but it was a discontinued model and reduced to sell. The dimensions, I believe were 6 feet long by 82 inches wide and I mounted it to a pair of old track slides using external eye mounts($10.00) that I purchased separately. Since it was an off the rack bimini, I had to alter the height by about 10 inches. It is mounted on old track cars, that had originally come with my boat, on the genoa track so it can be moved both forward and aft. In the picture, I have it mounted so it's just forward enough not to interfere with the mainsheet. When not in use(although I leave it up all the time), I can fold it up, put the boot cover on it, and slide it all the way back so it is standing straight up against the backstay behind the mainsheet.

It wasn't that difficult of a job to install the bimini and the cooling shade it provides on those hot, sunny days is wonderful.

<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2d904b3127cce9f7cd9e65e340000001410" border=0>

<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>Don Lucier<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>
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North Star SR/FK

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Dave B
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Response Posted - 07/03/2003 : 22:19:55

Having just taken the teak frame off the companionway, I see one area that could contribute some dripping into the quarterberth area... You should assume that some rainwater runs along the top shiplap edge of the lower two hatchboards, and then down the teak side rail to the sill. If there's any crack or gap at the edge of the sill, water will find and use it instead of running around the edge of the frame and then into the cockpit.

Water may also find its way behind the outside edge of the outer side rails, run down between that and the fiberglass bulkhead, and find a void between the sill and the bulkhead. I found a lot of old caulk in the gaps at both sides of the sill, dug most of it out, and re-caulked before putting the side rails back on. Check those areas for cracks and voids that you can caulk.

BTW, I found something that is new to me for bedding teak--a "polyether" caulk (West Marine brand) that claims not to be adversely affected by the oil in teak. Polysulfide caulks have statements on the label that to use them with teak, the wood should be primed first. The polyether needs a solvent for cleanup or removal--not water. (That might have something to do with it's compatibility with teak.) Anybody else used this stuff?

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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rwdutton
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Response Posted - 07/13/2003 : 18:31:09

Apologies for not seeing your post earlier.
We were frustrated with the gap between the sliding top and the hatchboards as well. We finally purchased a sunbrella cover custom-built for the Cat25 from Catalina Direct. My partner and I just installed the snaps on the boat -- fairly easy. It now protects the sliding top and the hatchboards ... I may get the boots for the handrails it looks so good!
BTW, we also will install a Nicro 2000 solar-powered exhaust vent in the 3" access hole above the head to draw out an moisture.
Cheers and good luck

Bob Dutton
Puff #4336 84 SR/FK
Westport, CT

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