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jncarlin
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Initially Posted - 07/01/2003 :  20:51:53  Show Profile
I need to replace the crib boards on my boat - called Catalina Direct and they want $250 for a set of teak boards!!!!! Are there any (cheaper) alternatives that I should consider? Thanks!

Joe Carlin


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Dave B
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Response Posted - 07/01/2003 :  21:13:07  Show Profile
First, why? Are they not restorable by sanding and Cetoling (as I just did)? Do you need all three boards? Some friends with a C-30 made a new upper board of gray Lexan, giving them more light in the cabin without sacrificing privacy. You could also make boards of Starboard (plastic), which is what the C-250 uses. A saw and router will do it. As for buying teak lumber that size, you may not beat CD's price by enough to pay for the fabrication. If you have the tools (router), cyprus and mahogany are options, although, based on the experience of a friend, mahogany tends to mildew (turn black). If you keep them finished, you can try one of these other materials.

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Steve Shetter
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Response Posted - 07/01/2003 :  22:19:16  Show Profile
Joe,

I have been a "wood butcher" for many years and have discovered the beauty of Sassafras wood. It has a gain some what like Oak, but can be finished in almost any hue that you like. Typically, you can buy it from any hardwood lumber dealer or fine wood location and it tools really well. If you want a testimonial as to its toughness, it was the wood of choice for hot tubs surrounds for many years and may still be.

I would hesitate to use materials other than wood, simply due to the strenght of wood versus other materials (Lexan, etc.), in the unlikely event that you are "pooped" and the wave should enter the cabin throulgh the broken crib board. that is something that you can evaluate better than anyone else, because you know in what kind of weather you are comfortable.

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Steve Shetter
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Response Posted - 07/01/2003 :  22:20:46  Show Profile
Joe,

Sassafras has GRASIN not gain.

Sorry,

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 07/01/2003 :  23:34:51  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
Lexan is a great alternative. You can rough it up and make it opaque for privacy and it lets light in. It's strong and can also come in colors. Easy to work with and lasts a long time. Does not need varnish or cetol wont rust or rot.

Doug&Ruth
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Dave B
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Response Posted - 07/02/2003 :  10:08:54  Show Profile
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I would hesitate to use materials other than wood, simply due to the strenght of wood versus other materials (Lexan, etc.), in the unlikely event that you are "pooped" and the wave should enter the cabin throulgh the broken crib board.
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Steve: If you ever butchered a piece of 1/2" Starboard or Lexan, you'd be convinced that in a length of 2-3', it is pretty strong. Considering how many pieces and joints make up my hatch boards, I might be more confident of either of those plastics withstanding a hit by a big wave. But I won't be testing that, one way or the other.

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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jncarlin
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Response Posted - 07/02/2003 :  14:00:58  Show Profile
Thanks for all the input. My crib boards are completely shot - the middle board is not even teak.....

What about marine plywood - I don't have many woodworking tools, and my thought was to measure and cut with a jigsaw, make sure everything fits, and then to use a polyurethane to better seal the edges - and use some type of water resistant stain to make it look more asthethic...

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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 07/02/2003 :  14:27:26  Show Profile
Two seasons ago I purchased the teak hatchboards offered by Catalina Direct.
They are well built, nice looking and, I think, worth the 250 asking price.
Three coats of Cetol Light are holding up well, too. A canvas top covers the hatch area when I'm away from the boat ... for sun and bug protection.




Mark L.
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Response Posted - 07/03/2003 :  00:28:37  Show Profile  Visit luckystar's Homepage
my friends on a pearson 37 have a 2 beautiful hatchboards made of tinted lexan framed in teak. The top board has "pearson 37" etched in the lexan. Super looking. I was thinking about adding a lexan board in the middle and taking the catalina logo file I redrew this past year to my glass guy to see if someone could etch it into the lexan so I can be a copy cat. We'll see if I can find anyone around here that can do it.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 07/03/2003 :  04:30:55  Show Profile
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What about marine plywood - I don't have many woodworking tools, and my thought was to measure and cut with a jigsaw, make sure everything fits, and then to use a polyurethane to better seal the edges - and use some type of water resistant stain to make it look more asthethic...
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Joe,
My Catalina 22 came with teak plywood hatch boards and I had to replace them. The top layer of veneer seemed to have evaporated and the laminations were delaminating.
You really only need a table saw (of course not everyone has one) to make these . . . cutting the offsets with two passes.

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jsummerfield
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Response Posted - 07/03/2003 :  20:27:12  Show Profile
Home Depot will cut plywood. The first cut is free and you pay a nominal fee for other cuts.

I do not remember why I saved marine hardwood lumber sites to my favorites but find such locations near you and see about having wood cut to size. It may end up more costly than Catalina Direct but all you have to loose is time. It may end up being a fun journey anyway.

http://www.glen-l.com/resources/lumber-suppliers.html#TX
http://www.maritimewoodproducts.com
http://www.houstonhardwoods.com/

John


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Steve Shetter
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Response Posted - 07/07/2003 :  21:57:34  Show Profile
Dave,

I have never worked either of the plastics that you mentioned, but have wondered what tooling would be necessary to work Lexan. If you have any experience with the process, please share it with the rest of us. I have nearly all of the typical woodworking tools, but nothing comes to mind that would work a plactic without risking damage to either the piece or the tooling, from the heat or melted material. I have used a hot knife to work plexi-glass, but it was a mess!!!

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Steve Shetter
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William Matley
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Response Posted - 07/07/2003 :  22:16:26  Show Profile
I made new hatch boards from a sheet of 1/2 inch plexaglass, cut it with my radial arm saw. Cut slowly, don't melt it, and it was no sweat.

It's much stronger than my wood teak boards, heavy as all heck.


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77Gypsy
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Response Posted - 07/08/2003 :  15:55:29  Show Profile
some marine shops can make them for you with the right wood and everything. i wa personally tghinking about replacing mine with a thick tinted plexiglass which i was going to biuld myself.

Steve
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77Gypsy
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Response Posted - 07/09/2003 :  00:50:55  Show Profile
just did some research, there is a company called H&L Marine in Florida that nmakes custom tiller, i asked and they make the doors too. they are pretty inexpensive compared to others

Steve
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