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seads
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Initially Posted - 07/05/2003 : 22:55:24

Does anyone have experience leading main halyard aft without lowering the mast to install a new base plate with attachment holes for leads? Is it possible to do this safely with installing this?

Stewart Eads
"Osprey" 1982 FK/SR #3408
Charleston Harbor, SC

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 07/06/2003 : 00:26:45

I think you'll have to lower the mast to put a base plate in... well, safely anyway. The screws that attach my add-on base plate to the original base plate come up from underneath.

An alternative is to mount 'stand up' blocks to your cabintop rather than add the mast base plate. However, that approach has it's drawbacks too... it provides another place where water can get into the cabintop.

Not that big a chore to lower the mast into the aft mast crutch.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 07/06/2003 : 09:16:20

osmepneo has the a standup block that routes the main halyard from vertical to horizontal and run over to a block that turns it toward the cabin. Near the cabin, several inches before the main halyard winch, the main halyard runs through a single rope clutch. Works great, no cabin leaks. That's on the stbd side. Similar arrangement on port for the Jib and Spinniker halyards.

Don Peet
c25, 1665, osmepneo, sr/wk
The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 07/06/2003 : 11:34:20

Stewart, I should point out that I really didn't mean to discourage you from installing stand up blocks if it will make your jobe easier. It just means drilling some holes in the cabin top.

If properly bedded and renewed every 10 years or so, they won't leak.

BTW, Garhauer has some really nice stand-up blocks.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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Dave B
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Mali
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Response Posted - 07/06/2003 : 12:17:45

How about replacing the bolt through the mast and tabernacle with an eye bolt (if you can find one in stainless), and attaching a swivel block to the eye? If you only want to run one line back, that would seem to be sufficient.

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Chip Hunt
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Response Posted - 07/06/2003 : 12:21:40

seads, i have a stand-up block about 4 to 6 inches from the base of the mast. the halyard then runs thru one other block, and then thru a clutch, around a winch, and into the cockpit. i have had absolutely no problem with leaks as a result of the deck-drilling. i have also not had to leave the cockpit to raise my main since the installation of this setup. my boat is docked at slip D19 at the cooper river marina. by all means, feel free to ride over there and take a look at the setup if you like. it does make a huge difference, especially if you plan on doing single-handed sailing.

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Dave B
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Response Posted - 07/06/2003 : 12:48:04

Another consideration... We like the addition of a "dousing line" or "down-halyard" to pull the main all the way down--instead of going up on the cabin to get it the last five feet or so... I use a 1/4" line tied or shackled to the grommet just below the headboard, and lead it back to the cockpit with the halyard. (When I attached it to to the headboard at the halyard, it pulled the headboard to the side, causing the top slug to bind). A rope clutch is overkill, although I'm using one since it's available. Now all I need is a flaking system...

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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77Gypsy
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Response Posted - 07/06/2003 : 14:31:44

i have my 3 halyards, main, genoa, and spinnaker halyards all leading aft in a "make-shift" kinda way that works very well. i use the horn cleats already fitted on the mast. i have the halyards run down the mast then through the middle of the horn cleat with a stopper knot on the end. this wasi can pull them from the cockpit. maybe i didn't decribe it very well by email me if you want a diagram.

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Steve
78 C25 SR/FK - Gypsy
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